Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 18:32     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Anonymous wrote:13:58, that is really rude.


could have been said better but it is a dose of reality around here. Why does AAP need a student with those stats?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 17:35     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
OP- Please refer and don't listen to any posters who urge you not to. My middle ds' score on the nnat topped at 122. and yet his teacher urged us to get a referral. He's now at Mosby Woods, and truly happy that he's there. I plan to do the same for my youngest ds this year (again, only 124) Maybe this will work out for him, or maybe not, but I'd feel better for trying.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 17:19     Subject: Re:If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Second grade teacher at a center school. I have enthusiastically supported students with scores like your child has OP and they have all got in to AAP (previously GT). On the other hand I have given GBRS as low as 6 to kids who had 140 and above on Nnat or CoGat subtest and they all got in too. Your child's scores are close enough that if the GBRS and commentary are high, he/she should get in.


Does this show that the GBRS is fairly subjective and not always accurate?


Yes, anytime humans are involved, there will be subjectivity and possible inaccuracies, either in favor or against the one being scored. Same situation with job interviews and when one chooses a mate--in other words, during most of your life.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 17:02     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
131 - CogAt - really high in quantatitve, not so in the other two (one in 120s other just over a 100!)

NNAT 125

parent referred and kid got in. (last year)
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 17:01     Subject: Re:If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Second grade teacher at a center school. I have enthusiastically supported students with scores like your child has OP and they have all got in to AAP (previously GT). On the other hand I have given GBRS as low as 6 to kids who had 140 and above on Nnat or CoGat subtest and they all got in too. Your child's scores are close enough that if the GBRS and commentary are high, he/she should get in.


Does this show that the GBRS is fairly subjective and not always accurate?


Yes. absolutely
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 16:50     Subject: Re:If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Anonymous wrote:Second grade teacher at a center school. I have enthusiastically supported students with scores like your child has OP and they have all got in to AAP (previously GT). On the other hand I have given GBRS as low as 6 to kids who had 140 and above on Nnat or CoGat subtest and they all got in too. Your child's scores are close enough that if the GBRS and commentary are high, he/she should get in.


Does this show that the GBRS is fairly subjective and not always accurate?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 16:30     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Cogat 127
Can't remember the other one, but it was in the same neighborhood.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 16:16     Subject: Re:If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Second grade teacher at a center school. I have enthusiastically supported students with scores like your child has OP and they have all got in to AAP (previously GT). On the other hand I have given GBRS as low as 6 to kids who had 140 and above on Nnat or CoGat subtest and they all got in too. Your child's scores are close enough that if the GBRS and commentary are high, he/she should get in.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 14:28     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Biases? Please. Maybe some kids don't test well, for whatever reason. *shrug*
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 14:20     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Anonymous wrote:IIRC, there was a thread last year listing childrens' scores and whether they were in or not, and some dc with test scores in the 120s were admitted to AAP.


That's where the biases come in with the GBIRS.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 14:18     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
IIRC, there was a thread last year listing childrens' scores and whether they were in or not, and some dc with test scores in the 120s were admitted to AAP.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 14:09     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Very rude, 13:58.

I referred one year when DD was three or four points below the CogAT and NNAT cutoffs (can't remember the numbers, which were specific for that year, anyway). She did not get in. I asked our AART to be brutally honest about whether those scores even put her in the running, and she said yes, but it's wasn't a super-enthusiastic yes. I'm still glad I went through the process, but OP, you may want to see if your AART can give you some insight.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 14:04     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
13:58, that is really rude.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 13:58     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
Anonymous wrote:I'll start:

NNAT 123

FxAT: VQN 124.

I know it's fairly off the mark. My issue is we have Local Level IV and my daughter is in top reading, spelling and math so it seems she is already in with the kids who will be in AAP. We'll see.


Why would you refer? Clearly it's not for your kid.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 13:52     Subject: If not in pool, but referring, please post scores
I'll start:

NNAT 123

FxAT: VQN 124.

I know it's fairly off the mark. My issue is we have Local Level IV and my daughter is in top reading, spelling and math so it seems she is already in with the kids who will be in AAP. We'll see.