Anonymous wrote:Wait. You don't want your kid's teacher to play Wrecking Ball because the lyrics are fine but the video's raunchy. The teacher isn't playing the video. If you Kindergartener looks up the video on the internet under your watch, that's on you, not the teacher. You child shouldn't be using the computer unsupervised.

Fair enough.

(I know this is a DCUM rarity, but I'm asking because I'm undecided, not because I want support for the position I've already taken, or because I want to make fun of people who don't agree with me.)

So, just me, then? Wanting to keep my daughter unaware of the existence of Miley Cyrus and her ilk for as long as possible? I guess I was kind of hoping that elementary school teachers would be steering children towards less-sexual music. There's lots of good stuff out there that doesn't lead to "oooh, I LOVE Miley Cyrus!" and the glorification of nasty skankitude. Hearing the music is the first step to liking the music which leads to liking the singer which leads to associating the singer with good acts and beliefs which leads to performing similar acts and espousing similar beliefs. Yes, I recognize that it's a simplistic and hysterical analysis ("dancing leads to intercourse!"), but that's the way my mind goes when I think of these young pop stars and my young daughter in the same sphere.

Wait. You don't want your kid's teacher to play Wrecking Ball because the lyrics are fine but the video's raunchy. The teacher isn't playing the video. If you Kindergartener looks up the video on the internet under your watch, that's on you, not the teacher. You child shouldn't be using the computer unsupervised.

Anonymous wrote:I have very clear memories of singing "Like a Virgin" in the car with my sister when we were in elementary school.
We did not know, nor did we care, what the song was about.

Same. My parents never said a word. In 5th grade my brother asked if I knew what a virgin was, and when I said no he told me. "Why would Madonna sing about THAT? It's SO PERSONAL!" Then I continued to sing the song anyway.

I have very clear memories of singing "Like a Virgin" in the car with my sister when we were in elementary school.
We did not know, nor did we care, what the song was about.

Anonymous wrote:Do you listen to the radio with the kids in the car? Do you ever take them shopping with you to a store that has music piped in? They'll probably hear it.

I'm not worried because my children do not understand double entendres. They take songs at face value without looking through the viewpoint of an adult with adult understandings and experiences. If a song says "you know you want it", they think it is about something they want. Like, legos.

This! Oh, and that Robin Thicke song is a favorite of my toddler and preschooler and I did bit it on iTunes for them.

Anonymous wrote:its on the kid bop 25 cd

http://www.amazon.com/Kidz-Bop-25-Kids/dp/B00GU3BJ24/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387230123&sr=8-1&keywords=kidz+bop+25

so it is possible they are playing a "kid" cd and hearing this song :/

Yikes. I had thought that the teacher was just using her own iPod and not giving any thought to what was coming out of it.

Btw, I learned my lesson about music videos the hard way. The little one loved Pink "Just Give Me A Reason", and I found it passable enough, so I pulled it up for her on my phone (video and all) while we were on a longish car trip. A dozen plays later, I finally looked at the video and... oh my.

All I wanted was to break you off...a piece of my Kit Kat bar

This is very funny. There was a popular song when I was in K or 1st grade about "playing one on one" and I asked what it meant and my dad said "you know, like checkers or chess"

Made total sense to me at the time. Still cracks me up when I hear that song.

its on the kid bop 25 cd

http://www.amazon.com/Kidz-Bop-25-Kids/dp/B00GU3BJ24/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387230123&sr=8-1&keywords=kidz+bop+25

so it is possible they are playing a "kid" cd and hearing this song :/

Anonymous wrote:What's offensive about Wrecking Ball (other than it being an awful song)

If she likes the way the song sounds, she's going to search for the video online at some point. (Yeah, my kindergartner is a whiz at the internet search. And I'm not standing over her shoulder every minute.) Same applies to lots of these songs... perhaps the lyrics aren't obviously gross, but the videos most definitely are.

As for hearing the songs elsewhere, 16:27, I'm in agreement to some extent. Piped-in music especially, because there's usually enough else going on that they're not paying attention to lyrics. I do pay attention to what's on the radio and switch it if it's obviously offensive ("gonna have you naked by the end of this song").

Do you listen to the radio with the kids in the car? Do you ever take them shopping with you to a store that has music piped in? They'll probably hear it.

I'm not worried because my children do not understand double entendres. They take songs at face value without looking through the viewpoint of an adult with adult understandings and experiences. If a song says "you know you want it", they think it is about something they want. Like, legos.

What's offensive about Wrecking Ball (other than it being an awful song)

Teacher first.

I had to do this at the daycare we use. One of the younger teachers was playing her own playlist on the daycare's sound system. I walked into "Moves Like Jagger" after already discussing it twice with the teacher, then I went to the director. I didn't want my 3 year old listening to that.

I would talk to the teacher, she's clearly clueless

My kids seem to hear a lot of pop music at school, mostly in PE. I think that's fine and fun... music is great for getting people moving. And I never had any idea about popular culture growing up, because I had intello-hippie parents. It was a detriment as a young teen, and I don't have anything against pop culture for my kids.

But the teachers don't seem to be censoring what the kids are hearing. So in the car, Wrecking Ball came on, and as I reached to change the station, my kindergartner said "Oh, I love this song!" And my 1st grader asked me to download "that song, you know, it goes, "you know you want it, you're a goooood guuuurl!"" and did a little butt-wiggle as he sang.

For now, I've just said "those songs are not for children because they talk about romance and other grownup stuff". ("Romance" is code at our house for all that lovey-dovey stuff like kissing on the mouth, but does not include hugs and kisses with family.) But if it was happening at your children's school, would you address it with the PE teacher (who is fresh out of college and in a little over her head), or the principal, or would you keep the discussions of readily-available but totally-inappropriate pop culture at home?