Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop with the royal talk please.
What about St. Andrews for regular folk who also apply to William and Mary.

Here's what my DC learned when we looked into the program: That the IR major is the most competitive/toughest to get into. That some kids don't end up doing the two years at St. Andrews because they don't want to leave W&M. And that it limits your study abroad experience to Scotland (I don't know whether this is actually the case, or just that it's logistically difficult to go somewhere else). DC did not end up applying.

thanks - what is the reputation of W&M in International Relations? (compared to the DC schools)

Anonymous wrote:Stop with the royal talk please.
What about St. Andrews for regular folk who also apply to William and Mary.

Here's what my DC learned when we looked into the program: That the IR major is the most competitive/toughest to get into. That some kids don't end up doing the two years at St. Andrews because they don't want to leave W&M. And that it limits your study abroad experience to Scotland (I don't know whether this is actually the case, or just that it's logistically difficult to go somewhere else). DC did not end up applying.

Stop with the royal talk please.
What about St. Andrews for regular folk who also apply to William and Mary.

Anonymous wrote:i never understood why william would go to st. andrews when he could've attended any college at oxbridge?

i mean i guess it doesn't really matter, he could've attended one of the redbricks or no uni at all and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

I read somewhere that he didn't have the grades/test scores and so he didn't even apply because he would have gotten in and then it would have been embarrassing for both the school and himself if his scores were made public. Kind of decent of him when you think about it. His father took the easy way in of course.

The number of kids in this program is between 20-30, but it has gotten off to a rocky start. Five or six kids dropped the first year and the trend was continuing last year, the second year. It is highly selective to get into. DD was going to apply, but then she thought...If I do that, I can't study abroad...meaning she's be stuck at English-speaking schools for all four years.

How many students are involved in this program?

Anonymous wrote:Oxbridge were too close to the London paparazzi and other royal watchers. St. Andrews is more remote and offered more privacy.

William reportedly likes Scotland due to his time at balmoral etc. also, it threw a bone to disgruntled scots who may want to separate from the uk.

Harry is apparently not very smart and it was a struggle for him to pass his exams at eton.

i'm sure scottish nationalists loved that. i would think it would be the opposite...scots who want full independence would rather he NOT have gone to school there.

Oxbridge were too close to the London paparazzi and other royal watchers. St. Andrews is more remote and offered more privacy.

William reportedly likes Scotland due to his time at balmoral etc. also, it threw a bone to disgruntled scots who may want to separate from the uk.

Harry is apparently not very smart and it was a struggle for him to pass his exams at eton.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i never understood why william would go to st. andrews when he could've attended any college at oxbridge?

i mean i guess it doesn't really matter, he could've attended one of the redbricks or no uni at all and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

He had to go to Uni or else there might have been non-State limitations on the age at which he could participate in thew management of HM's estates.

I get that...but why go up to Scotland at st. Andrews when he could've probably attended balliol or magdalen college at oxford or a top college at Cambridge?

harry didn't go to any traditional uni it seems...went from eton, gap-year, to sandhurst.

sandhurst is not like west point...it isn't a uni or nearly as long for cadets who direct entry.

or since harry isn't directy inline to the throne (like William), going to uni wasn't necessary?

Anonymous wrote:i never understood why william would go to st. andrews when he could've attended any college at oxbridge?

i mean i guess it doesn't really matter, he could've attended one of the redbricks or no uni at all and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

He had to go to Uni or else there might have been non-State limitations on the age at which he could participate in thew management of HM's estates.

i never understood why william would go to st. andrews when he could've attended any college at oxbridge?

i mean i guess it doesn't really matter, he could've attended one of the redbricks or no uni at all and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

I went to St. Andrews and it was a lovely university experience. The town is beautiful but quite remote.

My husband and I are both WM grads, and I hadn't heard of this before. What a wonderful program! St. Andrew's is an amazing university. I hope someone who has experience with the program chimes in as I would also love to hear more.

St Andrews? Isn't that where Prince William and kate Middleton attended? There's another plus, hanging with British upper class.

Anyone have experience with this? What would be the educational advantage (aside from the fun of spending or two years in Scotland?) It appears students have to apply for the program while still in high school. thanks!