Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:48
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:Clever 11:19. But really, can we get some real replies?
It boils down to, "decades of batshit crazy propaganda have convinced me that the political opposition is not just wrong, but fundamentally illegitimate". That plus the fact that, despite the bubble, I think they finally understand that they'll never have another actual legislative victory.
Hence the obsession with constitutionality.
It's a bit like the position the Left was in in the 70s and 80s, but for them it's forever. Must be chilling.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:46
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
I am. It makes sense to me that handouts should not be permanent because they become a way of life - too easy, people feel entitled and forget how to work. They are too divorced from the struggle. It also reflects badly on government, because it shows a lack of trust in people to help shape their own lives. Hand ups, not hand outs, are best.
I see that the larger government becomes, the less efficient it is. Also, running a country as large as the USA, there needs to proper delegation, which is what the Constitution iis designed to do. Anything not in there falls to the state and local governments. This is by design. Look at any well-run company and you will see this type of delegation in action.
Spread the wealth sounds good, but you can't do that through legislation without stepping on someone else's rights. Why is person A more important than person B? Doesn't make sense. No one's entitled to someone else's free labor.
People in power always want to stay in power. The people on power will always live better than the people not in power because that's human nature. You can see that is true all over the world. The rules they create never seem to apply to them. Limiting government keeps this in check.
That's a short synopsis.
I see that the larger government becomes, the less efficient it is. Also, running a country as large as the USA, there needs to proper delegation, which is what the Constitution iis designed to do. Anything not in there falls to the state and local governments. This is by design. Look at any well-run company and you will see this type of delegation in action.
Spread the wealth sounds good, but you can't do that through legislation without stepping on someone else's rights. Why is person A more important than person B? Doesn't make sense. No one's entitled to someone else's free labor.
People in power always want to stay in power. The people on power will always live better than the people not in power because that's human nature. You can see that is true all over the world. The rules they create never seem to apply to them. Limiting government keeps this in check.
That's a short synopsis.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:46
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
I am a Tea Party Patriot for one simple reason - Our current administration is spending money we don't have. They are spending other people's money at "historic" rates. Our country is truly a great country - not many countries would allow others to post their views (regardless of how negative their words may be) without threat of arrest. However, at the rate we are going, our country will cease to exist as a republic in the not too distant future.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:37
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Clever 11:19. But really, can we get some real replies?
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:36
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:just curious of the reasoning behind wanting to be a part of this mixed bag of nuts
I'm a Tea Party patriot. If I had to put it succinctly, I'd say it's a combination of things:
- I am definitely not a racist. I actually know black people and like some of them. Others I don't like. I just wish the good ones would talk to the bad ones and get them to stop acting in self-destructive ways (i.e. "pull your pants up" says Bill Cosby [who I *love*, btw])
REALLY! OMG!!! You actually know some. OMG! What are they like?
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:24
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:My tea party mother is disgusted with them all. It might make her shift a bit to less-conservative Republicans, but it doesn't change her value system. No handouts.
Except the handouts that people have earned by "paying into the system" (SS) or "being old" (Medicare) or just being a Real American (the GOP welfare state).
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:23
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:just curious of the reasoning behind wanting to be a part of this mixed bag of nuts
I'm a Tea Party patriot. If I had to put it succinctly, I'd say it's a combination of things:
- I'm pretty angry, because let's face it, I thought I was going to be rich, or that my superior intellect would in some way be recognized by the universe, but that hasn't happened.
- Meanwhile, there's some guy running the country who's probably not even American, has done nothing in his life other than run the Harvard Law Review and organize poor people, and has never had to make payroll. Since our whole society is one big giveaway to racial "interest groups" the only explanation for this is affirmative action.
- I am definitely not a racist. I actually know black people and like some of them. Others I don't like. I just wish the good ones would talk to the bad ones and get them to stop acting in self-destructive ways (i.e. "pull your pants up" says Bill Cosby [who I *love*, btw])
- Politics is confusing, and it's really hard to follow a lot of what's going on. At the same time, I'm the kind of person who really likes to feel like I have expertise in all things. But since I spend all my time reading websites that are light on news, and heavy on fodder for resentment, I don't really have the facts necessary to understand what's going on. But ironically enough, the less expertise one has, the less ability one has to evaluate one's level of expertise.
- I see the country is going in the wrong direction (gay people getting married, VD vaccines for 12 year olds, swearing on TV). You can tell the country's going to Hell in a handbasket, and something has to be done to bring it back in line with values of Real Americans--which means me and my neighbors.
- If we have to make the economy crater to get things back on track, I'm fine with that, because America's already sinking into the muck. And besides, if we have another recession, it's the moochers and takers who are going to suffer. Not hard-working Real Americans like myself.
Oh, also, the people who do things I agree with are constitutional. Those who do not are un-constitutional. I just want them to follow the constitution. In fact, anyone who passes a law or governs in a way I disagree with should be impeached and jailed because they're against the constitution. In a situation where it comes down to either my gut-feeling about what's constitutional, or the decisions of the Supreme Court, clearly my personal gut feeling should take precedence.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:19
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:just curious of the reasoning behind wanting to be a part of this mixed bag of nuts
I'm a Tea Party patriot. If I had to put it succinctly, I'd say it's a combination of things:
- I'm pretty angry, because let's face it, I thought I was going to be rich, or that my superior intellect would in some way be recognized by the universe, but that hasn't happened.
- Meanwhile, there's some guy running the country who's probably not even American, has done nothing in his life other than run the Harvard Law Review and organize poor people, and has never had to make payroll. Since our whole society is one big giveaway to racial "interest groups" the only explanation for this is affirmative action.
- I am definitely not a racist. I actually know black people and like some of them. Others I don't like. I just wish the good ones would talk to the bad ones and get them to stop acting in self-destructive ways (i.e. "pull your pants up" says Bill Cosby [who I *love*, btw])
- Politics is confusing, and it's really hard to follow a lot of what's going on. At the same time, I'm the kind of person who really likes to feel like I have expertise in all things. But since I spend all my time reading websites that are light on news, and heavy on fodder for resentment, I don't really have the facts necessary to understand what's going on. But ironically enough, the less expertise one has, the less ability one has to evaluate one's level of expertise.
- I see the country is going in the wrong direction (gay people getting married, VD vaccines for 12 year olds, swearing on TV). You can tell the country's going to Hell in a handbasket, and something has to be done to bring it back in line with values of Real Americans--which means me and my neighbors.
- If we have to make the economy crater to get things back on track, I'm fine with that, because America's already sinking into the muck. And besides, if we have another recession, it's the moochers and takers who are going to suffer. Not hard-working Real Americans like myself.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 11:16
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:Beats being a stupid liberal moonbat.
So you're unable to explain your own positions and reasoning? You're a tea partier, just because "it beats" being liberal? Sounds like you don't stand for anything independently on your own - you just don't want to be the other.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 10:54
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Would love real replies!
Anonymous
10/17/2013 10:53
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
My tea party mother is disgusted with them all. It might make her shift a bit to less-conservative Republicans, but it doesn't change her value system. No handouts.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 10:46
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beats being a stupid liberal moonbat.
Thanks for proving my point.
Yep.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 10:37
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Anonymous wrote:Beats being a stupid liberal moonbat.
Thanks for proving my point.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 10:36
Subject: Re:Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
Beats being a stupid liberal moonbat.
Anonymous
10/17/2013 10:31
Subject: Anyone out there willing to admit being a tea party member & Why?
just curious of the reasoning behind wanting to be a part of this mixed bag of nuts