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Anonymous wrote:I feed my dogs super high quality food and dogfoodanalysis.com is a great resource. The only nutrition teaching vets get in school is funded by companies like Hills Science Diet. Last I heard science diet has a class action suit against them for animals dying of renal failure

It was developed by Kansas State Veternarians but they sold the rights to Hills. My SIL's father was one of the original vets who developed the food. Honestly, I think Science Diet sucks.

This is quite true. Science Diet was great until it sold out to Hills (I was told Purina) - then grain and other "extenders" were added. Even the RX Purina or RX Science diet cat chow which I have to buy at my vets is full of grain which is not what an obligate carnivore (cat) is supposed to eat. You have to be very careful and read the labels. I'm going 100% meat (rabbit, lamb) and eventually will shift over to what my breeder uses, which is raw (you buy it frozen)

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Our dog was on Hill’s Canine u/d food for years b/c of bladder stones, but the vet said it was high in fat and that she needs to lose weight. That's why he put her on the Royal Canin Urinary SO.

I looked at the other brands people mentioned but none of them seem to have a type to ward off bladder stones.

I'm not sure if there's something I can add to food (any food) to do the same thing.

Your dog needs more moisture in her food if she's getting stones--are you seeing wet food? Offer water frequently and see if she'll eat an orange wedge with the skin peeled off. The acid will break up stones. How old is she? Can you take her to the dog park for exercise paling around with other dogs is exhausting for them. Makes them thirsty too.

OP here. Our dog was on Hill’s Canine u/d food for years b/c of bladder stones, but the vet said it was high in fat and that she needs to lose weight. That's why he put her on the Royal Canin Urinary SO.

I looked at the other brands people mentioned but none of them seem to have a type to ward off bladder stones.

I'm not sure if there's something I can add to food (any food) to do the same thing.

Whichever food you use, you have to switch foods gradually when you change a dog's diet. My puppy was born eating Royal Canin and I kept her on it for the first year. She was fine.

Then I started reading about dog foods and decided at age 1 to switch her to Blue Buffalo. After talking with several pet food stores, I was told repeatedly that food with mostly meat, but some grains, were the best for most dogs and that some can't handle a diet of pure proteins. So I switched her to the Blue food line that has some grains - not the pure protein line. But I gradually mixed the new food in with the old - at first 75% old, 25% new, then over the period of about a week to ten days, I moved away from the old, and more of the new. She was totally fine and is happy on the Blue Buffalo now.

Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get too carried away with super paleo if your dog is a puppy or is recovering from an illness. A hefty percentage of rice can help slow the gurgly bowel down. And with most modern mixed up breed dogs they have long ago adapted to the diet that their humans have existed on--Dog breeds from europe can certainly handle some grain--asian breeds too. The pure meat diet is too rich for a puppy. Brands like Blue and Acana are incredibly high in protein--whoever had the idea that dogs survived all these millennia eating pure meat...well it's nonsense and pseudo-science.

I do not disagree that dogs can handle grains, but the ingredients in grocery-store pet food like Royal Canin are highly allergenic and often comprise the bulk of the food itself. It amounts to feeding your dog McDonald's meals every day.

Not all high-quality dog foods are grain-free anyway. And I agree that white rice can help to settle a dog's stomach.

Since when can you buy Royal Canin in the grocery store? I only find it at Petsmart or Petco. Our dogs have done very well on Royal Canin.

Whatever, it doesn't matter where you buy it - it is low-quality food by any measure.

Anonymous wrote:I feed my dogs super high quality food and dogfoodanalysis.com is a great resource. The only nutrition teaching vets get in school is funded by companies like Hills Science Diet. Last I heard science diet has a class action suit against them for animals dying of renal failure

It was developed by Kansas State Veternarians but they sold the rights to Hills. My SIL's father was one of the original vets who developed the food. Honestly, I think Science Diet sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get too carried away with super paleo if your dog is a puppy or is recovering from an illness. A hefty percentage of rice can help slow the gurgly bowel down. And with most modern mixed up breed dogs they have long ago adapted to the diet that their humans have existed on--Dog breeds from europe can certainly handle some grain--asian breeds too. The pure meat diet is too rich for a puppy. Brands like Blue and Acana are incredibly high in protein--whoever had the idea that dogs survived all these millennia eating pure meat...well it's nonsense and pseudo-science.

I do not disagree that dogs can handle grains, but the ingredients in grocery-store pet food like Royal Canin are highly allergenic and often comprise the bulk of the food itself. It amounts to feeding your dog McDonald's meals every day.

Not all high-quality dog foods are grain-free anyway. And I agree that white rice can help to settle a dog's stomach.

Since when can you buy Royal Canin in the grocery store? I only find it at Petsmart or Petco. Our dogs have done very well on Royal Canin.

We have used Blue Wilderness Salmon for some time. Nice to see it gets the highest rating at the aforementioned dogfoodanalysis.com website.

We did use Royal Canin hypoallergenic perscription food for one of our dogs trying to stop a potential food allergy. The other dog ate it an ended up with a pretty severe case of pancreatitis. Never changing from Blue Wilderness Salmon again.

I feed my dogs super high quality food and dogfoodanalysis.com is a great resource. The only nutrition teaching vets get in school is funded by companies like Hills Science Diet. Last I heard science diet has a class action suit against them for animals dying of renal failure

Anonymous wrote:I don't get too carried away with super paleo if your dog is a puppy or is recovering from an illness. A hefty percentage of rice can help slow the gurgly bowel down. And with most modern mixed up breed dogs they have long ago adapted to the diet that their humans have existed on--Dog breeds from europe can certainly handle some grain--asian breeds too. The pure meat diet is too rich for a puppy. Brands like Blue and Acana are incredibly high in protein--whoever had the idea that dogs survived all these millennia eating pure meat...well it's nonsense and pseudo-science.

I do not disagree that dogs can handle grains, but the ingredients in grocery-store pet food like Royal Canin are highly allergenic and often comprise the bulk of the food itself. It amounts to feeding your dog McDonald's meals every day.

Not all high-quality dog foods are grain-free anyway. And I agree that white rice can help to settle a dog's stomach.

I don't get too carried away with super paleo if your dog is a puppy or is recovering from an illness. A hefty percentage of rice can help slow the gurgly bowel down. And with most modern mixed up breed dogs they have long ago adapted to the diet that their humans have existed on--Dog breeds from europe can certainly handle some grain--asian breeds too. The pure meat diet is too rich for a puppy. Brands like Blue and Acana are incredibly high in protein--whoever had the idea that dogs survived all these millennia eating pure meat...well it's nonsense and pseudo-science.

That is a terrible food - full of junk, soy, corn, etc.


Please take a look at dogfoodanalysis.com and dogfoodchat.com and find your dog a new food option. Our dog, who has a sensitive tummy, does well on Acana, which we buy at the pet supplies store.

What dog food did you use before? Read the label of the Royal Canin. Is it all meat and meat byproducts? Or is any type of grain mentioned in one of the earliest descriptions. I was surprised when I read the can for my RX Science Diet from my vet - it was mostly grain! And cats are obligate carnivores. So now I search out 100% meat cat food (Taste of the Wild, Instinct, etc.). Good luck!

We just started our dog on this b/c she has urinary stones issue. It makes her poop a lot and today her tummy's all gurgling.

Anyone else have this issue? Is this just getting adjusted to the food?