It's hard to tell whether this profile will get him into the program. Two years ago (when my daughter went through the process) the prevailing wisdom was CogAt counted much more than NNAT (unless your child was ESOL, as the NNAT removes language from the equation). But now that the FAT has shrunk the pool, maybe that extraordinary NNAT will push your guy over the bar. BTW, TMI on the potty issue.

OP here. I didn't mention this in the original post, but he is above grade level on reading, it's just that his written work doesn't look very good.... doesn't complete writing assignments b/c he spends too much time thinking what he wants to do, letter formation is not always correct - ie. backwards letters or numbers, kind of messy compared to the other kids' work.

What's a little bit ironic is that I really struggled with sending him to kinderg. on time b/c he was (and still seems) so immature compared to his older sister. We still tell this kid to "go to the bathroom" when he's doing the peepee dance but too engaged to take a bathroom break!

Anonymous wrote:We had a number of boys in my child's AAP class with this profile. The school appears to be aware that this is a not-unusual profile for boys that age. The verbal and writing side of things just needed time to mature and they all appear to be doing fine now, according to their parents and from perusing essays displayed on the wall during school events.

Thanks for this info! It is good to know this is not unusual. Most of my friends have girls and they are heads and shoulders above my son in reading and writing.

We had a number of boys in my child's AAP class with this profile. The school appears to be aware that this is a not-unusual profile for boys that age. The verbal and writing side of things just needed time to mature and they all appear to be doing fine now, according to their parents and from perusing essays displayed on the wall during school events.

Anonymous wrote:DS did surprisingly well on the NNAT (99th%). He is very good with numbers, but if you looked at his written work posted in the school hallways, you wouldn't be impressed. In fact, his written work is less "mature" and less complete than other kids. (DS is young for his grade.)

If a child has a very high NNAT, but CogAT does not meet the "in pool" benchmark, what are the chances they will be invited to AAP?

FWIW, older child (girl) is the opposite -- very high in verbal, but only average high in quantitative. Definitely see the stereotypical gender-based strengths playing out in them.

OP, we have the same experience as yours. My son did surprising well on NNAT last year but he was below average in reading, and one of the worst in writing. We spent some time helping him with reading and spelling over the summer and this year, he did much better in reading, but still bad in writing assignments. He scored above 95th percentile on FAT mainly because of quantitative and nonverbal so last year's test was not a random error. We don't know what to expect for AAP decision as he truly is not advanced at all on DRA or writing...

Looks like a Fairfax County Track 2 education is all this kid is worthy of.

DS did surprisingly well on the NNAT (99th%). He is very good with numbers, but if you looked at his written work posted in the school hallways, you wouldn't be impressed. In fact, his written work is less "mature" and less complete than other kids. (DS is young for his grade.)

If a child has a very high NNAT, but CogAT does not meet the "in pool" benchmark, what are the chances they will be invited to AAP?

FWIW, older child (girl) is the opposite -- very high in verbal, but only average high in quantitative. Definitely see the stereotypical gender-based strengths playing out in them.