Anonymous
Post 02/01/2013 05:41     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it happened TWICE today then obviously the common denominator is the idiot performing the test. He/she is clearly hitting the wrong nerve in patients! I had a pretty intense reaction to the uterine scraping and they said it was because of the nerve they hit, but the HSG is much less invasive--I've had 2 and a saline sonogram with no pain.

I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope they fire or at least retrain whoever did your procedure.



Sorry, but no. Everyone and anyone can have a seizure given the right (or shall I say wrong) threshhold. It's like having a headache or a heart attack. You can't blame the tester. Pushed past that threshhold, a seizure WILL result. The fact that it happened to two people is mere coincidence.

Do you blame the road when two people have an accident the same day?


First of all, if accidents happened often on the same road, yes, I would wonder if it wasn't the road conditions that day or the engineering of the road.

And since I've never heard of anyone seizing during an HSG, and the same person caused it twice in the same day, there was something wrong with the person doing it. He/she was the common denominator for a very rare experience happening twice in the same day, same place.

If it were a normal or common reaction to an HSG, it would be different, but it's not. There is no reason they need to even come close to that nerve during an HSG.

Doctors are far from perfect, particularly in the fertility field, and I would say, especially in the fertility field. Incompetence always has an excuse--bad eggs, bad sperm, in this case, the poor patient is blaming HERSELF for a seizure because she was nervous? Who isn't when in stirrups and having dye injected through your uterus, waiting to be told if your tubes are any good?

No, the bozo doing it made a mistake, hit a nerve, and caused the seizure.


She said she had another seizure during a gyno exam five years ago. There is no way to "hit a nerve" and cause a seizure. There is no nerve to hit that causes a seizure.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 10:08     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it happened TWICE today then obviously the common denominator is the idiot performing the test. He/she is clearly hitting the wrong nerve in patients! I had a pretty intense reaction to the uterine scraping and they said it was because of the nerve they hit, but the HSG is much less invasive--I've had 2 and a saline sonogram with no pain.

I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope they fire or at least retrain whoever did your procedure.



Sorry, but no. Everyone and anyone can have a seizure given the right (or shall I say wrong) threshhold. It's like having a headache or a heart attack. You can't blame the tester. Pushed past that threshhold, a seizure WILL result. The fact that it happened to two people is mere coincidence.

Do you blame the road when two people have an accident the same day?


First of all, if accidents happened often on the same road, yes, I would wonder if it wasn't the road conditions that day or the engineering of the road.

And since I've never heard of anyone seizing during an HSG, and the same person caused it twice in the same day, there was something wrong with the person doing it. He/she was the common denominator for a very rare experience happening twice in the same day, same place.

If it were a normal or common reaction to an HSG, it would be different, but it's not. There is no reason they need to even come close to that nerve during an HSG.

Doctors are far from perfect, particularly in the fertility field, and I would say, especially in the fertility field. Incompetence always has an excuse--bad eggs, bad sperm, in this case, the poor patient is blaming HERSELF for a seizure because she was nervous? Who isn't when in stirrups and having dye injected through your uterus, waiting to be told if your tubes are any good?

No, the bozo doing it made a mistake, hit a nerve, and caused the seizure.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2013 14:19     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

Anonymous wrote:If it happened TWICE today then obviously the common denominator is the idiot performing the test. He/she is clearly hitting the wrong nerve in patients! I had a pretty intense reaction to the uterine scraping and they said it was because of the nerve they hit, but the HSG is much less invasive--I've had 2 and a saline sonogram with no pain.

I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope they fire or at least retrain whoever did your procedure.



Sorry, but no. Everyone and anyone can have a seizure given the right (or shall I say wrong) threshhold. It's like having a headache or a heart attack. You can't blame the tester. Pushed past that threshhold, a seizure WILL result. The fact that it happened to two people is mere coincidence.

Do you blame the road when two people have an accident the same day?
jindc
Post 01/29/2013 10:06     Subject: seizure during hsg test

how is this your fault, OP!?
sounds horrible - I'm so sorry you had to go through this.

Agree with the "sh!t we have to go through". It's a pretty painful procedure, even if quick. However, they do "map" the way for the ER and ET and are somewhat important.

I definitely think taking pain meds (however strong) is helpful - I forgot, and wasn't pleased.

I hope you're OK, OP
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2013 07:12     Subject: seizure during hsg test

Anonymous wrote:I don't think you need to call this, "your fault," OP! It's a rough procedure--- having your innards suddenly inflated with water. I mean, wtf!! It hurt like hell for me. Sorry this happened to you. I hyperventilated a little, too. The sh**t we go through! Hang in there. I hope you are feeling better.


I totally agree!
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2013 01:20     Subject: seizure during hsg test

I don't think you need to call this, "your fault," OP! It's a rough procedure--- having your innards suddenly inflated with water. I mean, wtf!! It hurt like hell for me. Sorry this happened to you. I hyperventilated a little, too. The sh**t we go through! Hang in there. I hope you are feeling better.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 20:59     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

Anonymous wrote:thanks for responses. I'm pretty sure the seizure was partially or entirely my fault---I think I was so worked up and nervous about it all that I started hyperventilating during the test, which when caused a seizure. They did mention some nerve or something as well, and while I don't suffer from a seizure disorder, this happened one other time during a routine gyno exam about five years or so ago.

I probably should have asked for valium beforehand---it wasn't offered by my ob/gyn, but I know friends have taken it before the hsg and clearly something to reduce anxiety would have helped. I also don't understand why they don't require at least local anesthesia during HSGs since it seems to be a pretty miserable experience for most.

If they find a problem during the HSG, what can they do about it anyhow? I know my doc wanted to see if tubes were blocked, etc...but not sure how it would be fixed if they were.


Well, it's a good way of determining whether you need IVF, or if an approach like IUI might suffice. But if you know you're going to do IVF anyway, it probably doesn't matter.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 16:32     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

thanks for responses. I'm pretty sure the seizure was partially or entirely my fault---I think I was so worked up and nervous about it all that I started hyperventilating during the test, which when caused a seizure. They did mention some nerve or something as well, and while I don't suffer from a seizure disorder, this happened one other time during a routine gyno exam about five years or so ago.

I probably should have asked for valium beforehand---it wasn't offered by my ob/gyn, but I know friends have taken it before the hsg and clearly something to reduce anxiety would have helped. I also don't understand why they don't require at least local anesthesia during HSGs since it seems to be a pretty miserable experience for most.

If they find a problem during the HSG, what can they do about it anyhow? I know my doc wanted to see if tubes were blocked, etc...but not sure how it would be fixed if they were.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 16:30     Subject: seizure during hsg test

Oh Op, you poor thing! I had my HSG last week and it wa nerve wracking but was smooth sailing. I hope your next one is as well. I had mine at Washington Radiology on K St with Dr Sacks. He does several every Weds at 1:00 I'm told. Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 15:16     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

Wow, I am so so sorry, OP. That's horrible. And bizarre that the office would have two cases in one day. I think it may be good to get a second opinion, as much as you'd hate to "start over" with someone else. But I suggest this from experience. We had difficult experiences with our first RE, and when we went out of town for another RE, and then back in town with another RE, both the 2nd and 3rd practices were so much better than the 1st that we realize we should have switched from the get-go. Have you had other times in your visits with your current practice where something seemed off? If so, I'd really encourage you to listen to your instincts. Oh, and while I did not have a seizure, my HSG's were extremely painful. Like, big pain. I know this is not the case for everyone, but it was for me. Hope you are recovering well from this bad experience.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 14:46     Subject: seizure during hsg test

Holy cow, I've never heard of this. So sorry, OP. That really sucks.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 14:40     Subject: Re:seizure during hsg test

If it happened TWICE today then obviously the common denominator is the idiot performing the test. He/she is clearly hitting the wrong nerve in patients! I had a pretty intense reaction to the uterine scraping and they said it was because of the nerve they hit, but the HSG is much less invasive--I've had 2 and a saline sonogram with no pain.

I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope they fire or at least retrain whoever did your procedure.

Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 13:33     Subject: seizure during hsg test

hi all: just had my hsg test this morning. Should probably say I had half of it, because midway through the exam I passed out, wet myself and had a seizure. Doctors told me this happens about once a year, but that I was the second one today.

Anyone else had this? I think I'm most angry with myself because I only know that one tube and my uterus are good to go---they obviously had to cut the test short and didn't get to the other side. what a miserable experience.