Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 17:40     Subject: Re:AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a taxpayer, I want the proposal shot down. Sorry, not interested in millions being spent just so some children who elected to go to a different school for AAP don't have to change again to a new school with the same children they were with both at their base school and Haycock.


Posts like this take me back to the days of segregation.

"We don't want those kids using our bathrooms and art sinks, and eating in our cafeteria...
Ummmmm, could you have your kid scoot over? He's breathing cluster 2 all over my kid."


Haycock is just like African Americans fight for civil rights...

I wonder why people don't take you more seriously?


Some of the Cluster 2 parents - not all - set a new land record for histrionics.

This is not a racist/classist issue. It's a facilities issue. Haycock is overcrowded, Lemon Road has space, and the Cluster 2 AAP children are the most logical cohort of children to move to Lemon Road to take advantage of that space. Unless their parents poison the well, they will get a fabulous education there, and in a year people will be amazed that it was ever so controversial.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 17:25     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:As a taxpayer, I'd like to see them use some of this wasted space instead of overcrowding our schools. The money they invest at Pimmit could be a downpayment on making that school a viable space for a full elementary school that will be needed in that area very soon. If they put in a kitchen and a playground now, they will have that already done. Don't be fooled by the staff comments about the condition of the school. Before you opine, you should go see it yourself.

Haycock is very overcrowded and this is a good way to get rid of the trailers and get the kids in secure, locked space.

I get it that the Haycock base parents aren't interested in any other solution, so I won't keep arguing it.

To the PP who mentioned the discussion has died down. I think it's because the Cluster 2 parents are exhausted from being "shouted down." We no longer feel welcome and I think many are now looking forward to leaving Haycock.


As a taxpayer, the wasted space at Pimmitt would be well served to take the current tenants at Lewinsville and then reno Lewinsville and reopen it. It could reduce the over crowding at Haycock AND Kent Gardens. And/or they can use the space at Pimmit to move the Board of Supervisors daycare currently housed in Lemon road. With a redistricting, it could relieve part of Haycock, Kent Gardens and/or Freedom Hill.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 17:13     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
give me a break
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 17:06     Subject: Re:AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:As a taxpayer, I want the proposal shot down. Sorry, not interested in millions being spent just so some children who elected to go to a different school for AAP don't have to change again to a new school with the same children they were with both at their base school and Haycock.


Posts like this take me back to the days of segregation.

"We don't want those kids using our bathrooms and art sinks, and eating in our cafeteria...
Ummmmm, could you have your kid scoot over? He's breathing cluster 2 all over my kid."
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 17:05     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
As a taxpayer, I'd like to see them use some of this wasted space instead of overcrowding our schools. The money they invest at Pimmit could be a downpayment on making that school a viable space for a full elementary school that will be needed in that area very soon. If they put in a kitchen and a playground now, they will have that already done. Don't be fooled by the staff comments about the condition of the school. Before you opine, you should go see it yourself.

Haycock is very overcrowded and this is a good way to get rid of the trailers and get the kids in secure, locked space.

I get it that the Haycock base parents aren't interested in any other solution, so I won't keep arguing it.

To the PP who mentioned the discussion has died down. I think it's because the Cluster 2 parents are exhausted from being "shouted down." We no longer feel welcome and I think many are now looking forward to leaving Haycock.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 17:02     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you even read your own email? It was sent out among the Haycock community today because they have a right to know that Elizabeth Schultz is making his proposal that will affect their community. You will hear Haycock voices shout down this amendment tonight, as they shouted down Patty Reed's similar proposals last week. At least Patty Reed was listening, and pulled her amendments. Schultz just obviously thinks she knows best, regardless of the facts on the ground, or anybody else's opinion.


Your post is telling . . .

The Haycock base parents will "shout down" this proposal like all of the others. Sounds like a caring and open minded community.


That is exactly what they do with all ideas that benefit anyone other than their own snowflakes. Scream, shout, stomp their feet.
I think the annex idea is silly, but I think all kids should be grandfathered. Everyone else in the county is being afforded that right.
Haycock needs to give those kids a chance.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 16:49     Subject: Re:AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
As a taxpayer, I want the proposal shot down. Sorry, not interested in millions being spent just so some children who elected to go to a different school for AAP don't have to change again to a new school with the same children they were with both at their base school and Haycock.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 16:37     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:Do you even read your own email? It was sent out among the Haycock community today because they have a right to know that Elizabeth Schultz is making his proposal that will affect their community. You will hear Haycock voices shout down this amendment tonight, as they shouted down Patty Reed's similar proposals last week. At least Patty Reed was listening, and pulled her amendments. Schultz just obviously thinks she knows best, regardless of the facts on the ground, or anybody else's opinion.


Your post is telling . . .

The Haycock base parents will "shout down" this proposal like all of the others. Sounds like a caring and open minded community.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 15:33     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
...kind of surprised the debate on here has mostly dropped off
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 15:27     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:Do you even read your own email? It was sent out among the Haycock community today because they have a right to know that Elizabeth Schultz is making his proposal that will affect their community. You will hear Haycock voices shout down this amendment tonight, as they shouted down Patty Reed's similar proposals last week. At least Patty Reed was listening, and pulled her amendments. Schultz just obviously thinks she knows best, regardless of the facts on the ground, or anybody else's opinion.


It's clear that Schultz's main goal is to get in Janie Strauss's face, since Strauss voted in favor of closing Clifton ES, Schultz's old school. While I think FCPS should have kept Clifton open, Schultz ought to be embarassed here. It's not her district, she's not an at-large member, and she hasn't done anything to show a Pimmit Annex is feasible or desired by more than a handful of current AAP parents.

With stunts like this, Schultz can pretty much forget about getting support for any of her own initiatives.

Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 15:21     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:A complete non-starter of a solution


I agree with 14:08. The Haycock principal and the Lemon Road principal already testified in front of the Board at a work session last week that they opposed the idea of a "Haycock annex." This new amendment asks the Board to create an annex where there isn't even a school -- no administration, no counselors, no librarian. So it's proposing creating an entirely NEW infrastructure (read: more cost) wholly for temporary use. The idea of the Lemon Road annex arguably made more sense, from a cost perspective, but both principals had other reasons for opposing it. I have no idea why Schultz made this amendment (and at the last minute, too), but I would think it would be very unlikely to pass.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 14:25     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Do you even read your own email? It was sent out among the Haycock community today because they have a right to know that Elizabeth Schultz is making his proposal that will affect their community. You will hear Haycock voices shout down this amendment tonight, as they shouted down Patty Reed's similar proposals last week. At least Patty Reed was listening, and pulled her amendments. Schultz just obviously thinks she knows best, regardless of the facts on the ground, or anybody else's opinion.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 14:10     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
Anonymous wrote:A complete non-starter of a solution, already discussed and rejected from the Haycock community.


So why was it sent out by the Haycock PTA today if it has been "already discussed and rejected from the Haycock community"?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 14:08     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
A complete non-starter of a solution, already discussed and rejected from the Haycock community. Pimmit has no gym, a library space but no books, computers, etc. and I believe its cafeteria also doesn't pass muster at the moment for an elementary school. Would need to spend millions to have this be a workable solution. And what would be the point to house kids just during the renovation? This is Elizabeth Schultz grandstanding on something she knows nothing about, acting like she has the solutions when she doesn't have the facts and hasn't consulted with the community.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2013 13:59     Subject: AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment
I just learned about Elizabeth Schultz's amendment for the Haycock students. I think this is an innovative solution! Does anyone know if she'll have the votes in support of her amendment?