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Anonymous wrote:All O's, high test scores and high WISC, but GBRS was a 9. I heard our school actually gave some kids in the pool a 2 that year. It is really a crap shoot depending on the committee. yes I was suprised once I saw it. Was accepted 1st round.

So you got the WISC before knowing the GBRS, or in the appeal process after knowing the GBRS? Just want to see if I need get WISC in case.

14:59 back. We had DC take the WISC before we received the test results because we wanted to answer for ourselves - if she gets into this pool - is that really something we want to pursue? DC is very quiet, didn't raise her hand much and I guess didn't really didn't show her 'exceptional behavior'. Hence the 9. WISC was above 140 and is doing amazing work now at a center.

My ds had good grades, but they were a mix of O and G. His work was very messy, but very unique. His GBRS was 16, and the comments highlighted how he approached things from every angle possible and discussed in detail questions he had asked and assignments he had completed.

Anonymous wrote:So then for the child who can easily work above grade level but isn't exceptional, the solution is to put them back at grade level in general ed?

Where did you read that? Solution to what?
The child could still work above grade level in the general ed classroom. Thats where he should be instructed. There's no reason why that child would have to do all work on grade level. The school day should be enriched for students the same way we remediate for students. Not all of them are reading or writing the same thing. Some students are in compacted math. It varies.

So then for the child who can easily work above grade level but isn't exceptional, the solution is to put them back at grade level in general ed?

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a child with high test scores, getting O's, and doing above average work in school would get a GRBS below say 10?

They may be doing advanced work, or above average, but it might not be exceptional. A student can work above grade level, but not show exceptional creative/productive thinking. A student could get O's (which are not used anymore), but might not demonstrate exceptional motivation to succeed (explore and research independently, Poised with adults, showing initiative...).

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a child with high test scores, getting O's, and doing above average work in school would get a GRBS below say 10?

Read the gbrs scoring sheet.

It evaluates a very specific, narrow group of skills and attributes.

If most parents truly look at the list objectively, it would be surprising for even parents to score their child a 15 or 16.

Yes. Every category begins with, "Exceptional...". So already it's been narrowed quite a bit. "Exceptional" in itself should give you a small pool. The, to get a "2", a child has to demonstrate exceptional ability "occasionally". A "3" is showing exceptional ability "frequently". I've taught third grade for 16 of my 20 years. Most students probably score in the 4-7 range or so. I see a 10 as being a pretty good score. A 12 is high. I don't think I've ever had a 16. Given two 2s and two 3s, that student with a 10 is showing exceptional ability either occasionally or frequently in the four rating areas.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a child with high test scores, getting O's, and doing above average work in school would get a GRBS below say 10?

Read the gbrs scoring sheet.

It evaluates a very specific, narrow group of skills and attributes.

If most parents truly look at the list objectively, it would be surprising for even parents to score their child a 15 or 16.

15:34 on the flip side I know a child who had mainly Os, a high score and low GBRS and was not found eligible. Parents asked teacher and were told kid was smart but unmotivated and was doing just fine in general Ed.

Anonymous wrote:All O's, high test scores and high WISC, but GBRS was a 9. I heard our school actually gave some kids in the pool a 2 that year. It is really a crap shoot depending on the committee. yes I was suprised once I saw it. Was accepted 1st round.

So you got the WISC before knowing the GBRS, or in the appeal process after knowing the GBRS? Just want to see if I need get WISC in case.

Gifted behavioral rating scale

My extremely shy 2nd grader scored very, very high on all of the tests but never spoke up in class, tried to essentially hide in class when called on, and never really participated. It wasn't until 4th and 5th grade that he came out of his shell. Needless to say his GBRS was a 9, and he was classified Level 3 because of this alone (and has since been reclassified Level 4 without retesting but with a new GBRS and some notes from his teachers). That's how a bright, above average kid can get a low GBRS score. Being smart doesn't mean that you are self-driven or motivated to speak out in class necessarily. And the score of 9 in 2nd grade? That was probably accurate back then when they gave it to him.

Can someone explain why a child with high test scores, getting O's, and doing above average work in school would get a GRBS below say 10?

What are GBRS?

All O's, high test scores and high WISC, but GBRS was a 9. I heard our school actually gave some kids in the pool a 2 that year. It is really a crap shoot depending on the committee. yes I was suprised once I saw it. Was accepted 1st round.

Looking for parents who have been through this process and know their child's GBRS. Was anyone really surprised by it? It sounds like kids either in the pool or being parent-referred to the AAP selection process have GBRS scores in the 7-16 range. Are the kids getting 16s obviously very smart but also the teacher-pleasers in the class? Are the 7s kids that sometimes don't want to cooperate in the classrom though they might be just as smart? Just trying to assess if DC has a chance of getting a decent GBRS. Thanks.