Anonymous wrote:Cooper Union.

Talk about tough to get into! She would also have to submit a portfolio, I believe.

Cooper Union.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't imagine a kid who wants to go to NYU wanting to go to Columbia. Also agree with other posters that getting into Columbia is for those with stellar grades, scores and a unique talent/national accomplishment or demonstration of true leadership of some kind (not president of his/her class but the kind of kid who can raise tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical research or disaster relief for example. Columbia is a great school, but super intellectual. They have one of the most rigorous and strict set of distribution requirements of any school I've seen. The students are the kind of kids who are as happy as clams if they can spend hours and hours discussing/debating esoteric topics on weekend nights. Student athletes might be the exception.

The two student athletes we know at Columbia also have eye-watering (in a good way) academic qualifications.

No offense intended regarding student athletes. Just saying that since sports requires them to be less single-minded they may be a little less uber intellectual. But I could be wrong of course.

In any case, you're right about Columbia students staying up late on a Wednesday night discussing insights from the St. Augustine reading in the core curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't imagine a kid who wants to go to NYU wanting to go to Columbia. Also agree with other posters that getting into Columbia is for those with stellar grades, scores and a unique talent/national accomplishment or demonstration of true leadership of some kind (not president of his/her class but the kind of kid who can raise tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical research or disaster relief for example. Columbia is a great school, but super intellectual. They have one of the most rigorous and strict set of distribution requirements of any school I've seen. The students are the kind of kids who are as happy as clams if they can spend hours and hours discussing/debating esoteric topics on weekend nights. Student athletes might be the exception.

The two student athletes we know at Columbia also have eye-watering (in a good way) academic qualifications.

No offense intended regarding student athletes. Just saying that since sports requires them to be less single-minded they may be a little less uber intellectual. But I could be wrong of course.

Anonymous wrote:Can't imagine a kid who wants to go to NYU wanting to go to Columbia. Also agree with other posters that getting into Columbia is for those with stellar grades, scores and a unique talent/national accomplishment or demonstration of true leadership of some kind (not president of his/her class but the kind of kid who can raise tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical research or disaster relief for example. Columbia is a great school, but super intellectual. They have one of the most rigorous and strict set of distribution requirements of any school I've seen. The students are the kind of kids who are as happy as clams if they can spend hours and hours discussing/debating esoteric topics on weekend nights. Student athletes might be the exception.

The two student athletes we know at Columbia also have eye-watering (in a good way) academic qualifications.

The film school is one of the best and honestly, I think that makes the NYU film school grads a bit insufferable but at the same time, they don't necessarily get great or decent paying jobs because so many jobs in the film industry don't require a degree at all. I don't know much more but NYU grads I know have that kind of irritating attitude where they act like everything is blasé. They act like nothing is new or cool to them because they were already so exposed to everything when at NYU. Annoying and often BS.

Can't imagine a kid who wants to go to NYU wanting to go to Columbia. Also agree with other posters that getting into Columbia is for those with stellar grades, scores and a unique talent/national accomplishment or demonstration of true leadership of some kind (not president of his/her class but the kind of kid who can raise tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical research or disaster relief for example. Columbia is a great school, but super intellectual. They have one of the most rigorous and strict set of distribution requirements of any school I've seen. The students are the kind of kids who are as happy as clams if they can spend hours and hours discussing/debating esoteric topics on weekend nights. Student athletes might be the exception.

14:52 again. That sound you hear us me slapping myself on the forehead. I hadn't registered the post about NYU's poly science department being really good, and I hadn't known that. So switch my point about there being cheaper places to study to something else like, I don't know, sociology.

NYU takes maybe 33% of applicants, so it's competitive. Columbia takes 7%, which is really tough. Barnard, which shares most courses with Columbia but not Columbia's core curriculum, takes 25%. Some of the CUNY's have acceptance ratios of 25-30%.

If you really want to get depressed, google the NYTimes 10 most expensive colleges. Columbia, Barnard and NYU are in the top 10, because of the cost of living in NYC. So unless money is no object, I'd try to get her to think out what she wants to do job-wise that would use her living-in-NYC experience!

A friend who went to NYU says the lack of campus makes it different from other college experiences. There is some housing but not enough, so lots of kids are living in off-campus apartments which has a really different feel, obviously. Columbia and Barnard guarantee housing all four years.

My sense is that the $60K for NYU might be worth it if you're studying something they're really known for, like film. But if your daughter doesn't know what to study, then not so much. She can get a great degree in something like poly sci at a much cheaper school.

Columbia is so much harder to get into than NYU, no?

NYU is a good school for all areas. I majored in political science, our department was great. My DH who was my boyfriend at the time majored in finance. We were both accepted to good law schools afterwards.

However, I would also recommend looking at other NYC schools such as Columbia, CUNY-Hunter (great Honors program, my sister is there now), the New School.

This. Columbia does have more of a campus feeling and is safer. NYU is in the Village so, yes, scattered and old. Would she consider Barnard?

How about Columbia? DD said it has a more campus feel. NYU is a bunch of dated buildings scattered around lower Man. Island.

NYU is very expensive. My cousin is a science professor at NYU and thinks it's not a good value for the money, but she can't speak for Tisch. I graduated from NYU in the 80s and would never pay 60K for it today. Plenty of kids get scholarships and need based aid, so I guess it's all relative. If your DD wants to go to school in NYC, she should look at CUNY schools.

Please tell me about NYU. My DD really wants to go. She has no idea what she wants to major in. I think she's attracted to NYC more than anything else. Is it considered prestigious? Hard to get into? A good college experience?

Thanks.