Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 13:00     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

you should never use non-stick pans for cooking, only stainless steel.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 12:11     Subject: Re:Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 12:10     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

Anonymous wrote:11:01 Just curious. Do you mean a lower smoke point? I'm not much of a cook but I do know that olive oil will start smoking earlier so should be avoided for a hot fry in a skiller. But I would have said it has a lower smoke point than corn oil Am I wrong?


What I wrote was:
Me wrote:Cooking oil is typically corn, vegetable, canola or similar type oil. As someone mentioned, it has a higher smoking point (e.g. can be heated higher without smoking up).


The "it" here is referring to corn, vegetable or canola oil that has the higher smoke point. Yes, I should have said "they have a higher smoking point..." So, yes you are correct, but you are phrasing it in terms of the olive oil. I was phrasing in terms of the other oils. It's the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 11:33     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

11:01 Just curious. Do you mean a lower smoke point? I'm not much of a cook but I do know that olive oil will start smoking earlier so should be avoided for a hot fry in a skiller. But I would have said it has a lower smoke point than corn oil Am I wrong?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 11:21     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

7:38 here. Thanks so much for the Chinese cooking tutorial, pp! That's what I meant to say.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 11:17     Subject: Re:Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

Anonymous wrote:Cooking oil is typically corn, vegetable, canola or similar type oil. As someone mentioned, it has a higher smoking point (e.g. can be heated higher without smoking up). You should really only use olive oil for pan frying something in a non-stick pan because you can't heat it as high. When cooking dumplings there are a few tips to help. First, heat your oil hot before you put anything into the pan. Take a drop of water on your fingertip and shake it into the oil. Do not put the potstickers in the pan until that water drop boils and crackles in the water, e.g. the oil is over 200 deg. Keep the dumplings cold and frozen until you are ready to put them in the pan, even a few minutes thawing on the counter will make it harder. What happens is as they thaw, the ice on the outside melts slightly, and that little bit of moisture will get into the dough of the wrapper and make it gummier or stickier. If you put them very cold into the pan, any ice that melts will not be absorbed by the dough, but will boil off in the oil (that's the big crackling you hear when you first put them into the oil). Also cover the pan immediately after putting them in as that will contain the heat and you'll lose less heat. Let them sit untouched (do not move them or "check the bottoms") for the first 3+ minutes. What you are doing is searing a quick crust on the bottom. Once that crust sets, they will not stick nearly as much to the pan. Let them sit until you have a golden crust on the bottom of all of them. When you have the crust, add water to the pan until you have about 1/8" - 1/4" layer of water in the bottom of the pan. Cover immediately or you'll have hot oil spattering when the water hits the oil. I put the cover over the pan tiled up about 45 degrees, pour the water in and immediately drop the lid onto the pan. You also want to cover immediately to capture the steam. What you are doing now is steaming the tops of the dumplings. Let sit for 6-8 minutes without removing the cover depending on the heat of your stove. I would turn it down to medium-high heat when you add the water. You need enough to keep the water boiling and steaming the top but it doesn't have to be a fast boil. When the water is mostly boiled off, you can plate and serve the dumplings. If you got a good sear on the bottom, they won't stick very much.

My mother taught Chinese cooking for many years and taught me how to do this. It sounds complicated, but it's really very easy once you get use to it. Good luck.
d


Not the OP, but I loved your answer! Thanks. I just burned something by mistake a couple of days ago. ::sigh::
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 11:01     Subject: Re:Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

Cooking oil is typically corn, vegetable, canola or similar type oil. As someone mentioned, it has a higher smoking point (e.g. can be heated higher without smoking up). You should really only use olive oil for pan frying something in a non-stick pan because you can't heat it as high. When cooking dumplings there are a few tips to help. First, heat your oil hot before you put anything into the pan. Take a drop of water on your fingertip and shake it into the oil. Do not put the potstickers in the pan until that water drop boils and crackles in the water, e.g. the oil is over 200 deg. Keep the dumplings cold and frozen until you are ready to put them in the pan, even a few minutes thawing on the counter will make it harder. What happens is as they thaw, the ice on the outside melts slightly, and that little bit of moisture will get into the dough of the wrapper and make it gummier or stickier. If you put them very cold into the pan, any ice that melts will not be absorbed by the dough, but will boil off in the oil (that's the big crackling you hear when you first put them into the oil). Also cover the pan immediately after putting them in as that will contain the heat and you'll lose less heat. Let them sit untouched (do not move them or "check the bottoms") for the first 3+ minutes. What you are doing is searing a quick crust on the bottom. Once that crust sets, they will not stick nearly as much to the pan. Let them sit until you have a golden crust on the bottom of all of them. When you have the crust, add water to the pan until you have about 1/8" - 1/4" layer of water in the bottom of the pan. Cover immediately or you'll have hot oil spattering when the water hits the oil. I put the cover over the pan tiled up about 45 degrees, pour the water in and immediately drop the lid onto the pan. You also want to cover immediately to capture the steam. What you are doing now is steaming the tops of the dumplings. Let sit for 6-8 minutes without removing the cover depending on the heat of your stove. I would turn it down to medium-high heat when you add the water. You need enough to keep the water boiling and steaming the top but it doesn't have to be a fast boil. When the water is mostly boiled off, you can plate and serve the dumplings. If you got a good sear on the bottom, they won't stick very much.

My mother taught Chinese cooking for many years and taught me how to do this. It sounds complicated, but it's really very easy once you get used to it. Good luck.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 07:53     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

OP here. Very helpful answers. Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 07:43     Subject: Re:Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

Cooking oils are generally more flavorless than olive oil. Peanut oil is best for frying. Canola or corn oil are the most neutral. Pot stickers with olive oil is an odd flavor combination.

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 07:38     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

No, olive oil shouldn't be used the same way as "cooking oil." It has a higher smoke-point, meaning it heats up much faster and can smoke early. It's often used to pan-fry or sauté but should not be treated the same as other oils and should not be used for deep frying.

That said, I don't think that was the reason for your issues. Stainless steel pans can be tough. You would have needed to make sure the pan was warm enough before you started, and I have a feeling you tried to move the dumplings too early. Foods will "lift" when they are ready but will stick while cooking.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2012 07:21     Subject: Can olive oil be considered "cooking oil?"

I'm a dad and don't cook much. I was trying to pan fry some frozen dumplings for my daughters. The directions (Safeway potstickers) said to use cooking oil. All I had was olive oil and I used that. It ended up sticking a lot to what I guess was a stainless-steel pan (not non-stick) and made it hard to remove. Would it work better if I used, say, corn oil instead?