Anonymous
Post 11/18/2012 17:43     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

"Keep an eye on it. If the skin is crispy and brown before it's done, put a big foil tent over it to keep it from browning further while it's still cooking. It's done when the meat thermometer in the thickest part of the thigh (without hitting the bone) hits 160. Let it rest on a cutting board half an hour before carving. "

Tent that sucker with foil while it's resting for half and hour!
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2012 17:27     Subject: Re:Never cooked a turkey - help

Anonymous wrote:Don't trust the pop-up timer. Those things are notoriously sloppy. An instant-read meat thermometer costs less than $10 at the grocery store or hardware store.

In a small bowl, mix the following until blended smooth:
1/4 to 1/2 stick softened butter
2 go 4 cloves of fresh garlic, minced fine (do this yourself; don't use the jarred stuff)
3 sprigs each of sage, thyme, and rosemary--leaves stripped off the stems, then chopped
Salt and pepper to taste (if you're not sure, try 1/2 tsp. each)

If you have small hands and are confident, starting around the big cavity, gently loosen the skin away from the meat. GENTLY spread the butter/herb/salt/pepper mix over the turkey (under the skin) with your hands, trying to reach as many places as you can, trying NOT TO TEAR THE SKIN. Do the same thing starting from the other cavity, reaching as much of the bird as you can. Spread what's left on the outside of the skin.

If your hands are clumsy or you don't have confidence in this, then just rub it all over the outside of the skin.

Make sure you got the giblet bag out of the cavity. Throw some fruit into the cavity--a lemon cut into quarters, or an orange, or an apple and an onion (whichever you use, cut into quarters). You can also throw a few sprigs of herbs in there--thyme or rosemary or both. Whatever's in there should be loose, not packed.

Put the turkey on a roasting rack in your roasting pan. If you don't have a rack, cut up a bunch of carrots, onions, and celery, in very big coarse pieces. Put the turkey on top of those--they'll hold it off the bottom of the pan, at least until they cook to soft. The idea is to keep the turkey up out of its drippings to the extent that you can.

You can read various cookbooks or internet recipes for a roasting time/temperature/method. There are plenty of recipes out there to follow, anywhere from 325 to 500. I prefer roasting at 375 or 400. If you go with a lower temp (325 is standard), you're protected from burning it, but it's harder to gauge the time it will be done. If you go higher than 400, you risk drying/burning.

I'd advise starting with the bird breast-down and flipping it over halfway through. (To do this, you need silicone gloves, or two big sets of tongs and some confidence.) If you don't want to try to do that, no sweat, just make sure you baste frequently to avoid drying the breast. You can buy a turkey baster that has an injection needle if you want, that allows injecting the drippings back into the bird instead of just basting over the top where they run right back off.

Keep an eye on it. If the skin is crispy and brown before it's done, put a big foil tent over it to keep it from browning further while it's still cooking. It's done when the meat thermometer in the thickest part of the thigh (without hitting the bone) hits 160. Let it rest on a cutting board half an hour before carving.


If you're the same poster that I think you are--one who consistently takes the time to share wonderful, detailed advice/suggestions/directions and great recipes, a big thank you once again! You're the best! (Long-time cook here, and I truly appreciate your cooking skills!)
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 21:52     Subject: Re:Never cooked a turkey - help

Thanks everyone. We went with an 8-10 pound fresh, picking up Wednesday at Whole Foods.

Any idea how long that will take to cook given instructions above? TIA
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 17:58     Subject: Re:Never cooked a turkey - help

160 - I meant 165.

The temperature will continue to rise after you take it out of the oven, while it rests.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 17:56     Subject: Re:Never cooked a turkey - help

Don't trust the pop-up timer. Those things are notoriously sloppy. An instant-read meat thermometer costs less than $10 at the grocery store or hardware store.

In a small bowl, mix the following until blended smooth:
1/4 to 1/2 stick softened butter
2 go 4 cloves of fresh garlic, minced fine (do this yourself; don't use the jarred stuff)
3 sprigs each of sage, thyme, and rosemary--leaves stripped off the stems, then chopped
Salt and pepper to taste (if you're not sure, try 1/2 tsp. each)

If you have small hands and are confident, starting around the big cavity, gently loosen the skin away from the meat. GENTLY spread the butter/herb/salt/pepper mix over the turkey (under the skin) with your hands, trying to reach as many places as you can, trying NOT TO TEAR THE SKIN. Do the same thing starting from the other cavity, reaching as much of the bird as you can. Spread what's left on the outside of the skin.

If your hands are clumsy or you don't have confidence in this, then just rub it all over the outside of the skin.

Make sure you got the giblet bag out of the cavity. Throw some fruit into the cavity--a lemon cut into quarters, or an orange, or an apple and an onion (whichever you use, cut into quarters). You can also throw a few sprigs of herbs in there--thyme or rosemary or both. Whatever's in there should be loose, not packed.

Put the turkey on a roasting rack in your roasting pan. If you don't have a rack, cut up a bunch of carrots, onions, and celery, in very big coarse pieces. Put the turkey on top of those--they'll hold it off the bottom of the pan, at least until they cook to soft. The idea is to keep the turkey up out of its drippings to the extent that you can.

You can read various cookbooks or internet recipes for a roasting time/temperature/method. There are plenty of recipes out there to follow, anywhere from 325 to 500. I prefer roasting at 375 or 400. If you go with a lower temp (325 is standard), you're protected from burning it, but it's harder to gauge the time it will be done. If you go higher than 400, you risk drying/burning.

I'd advise starting with the bird breast-down and flipping it over halfway through. (To do this, you need silicone gloves, or two big sets of tongs and some confidence.) If you don't want to try to do that, no sweat, just make sure you baste frequently to avoid drying the breast. You can buy a turkey baster that has an injection needle if you want, that allows injecting the drippings back into the bird instead of just basting over the top where they run right back off.

Keep an eye on it. If the skin is crispy and brown before it's done, put a big foil tent over it to keep it from browning further while it's still cooking. It's done when the meat thermometer in the thickest part of the thigh (without hitting the bone) hits 160. Let it rest on a cutting board half an hour before carving.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 09:52     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

Get one with a pop-up timer. Dig out the bag of organs AND the neck - there may be one bag in each cavity.

Baste often. It's really not that hard.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 08:41     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

Anonymous wrote:I thought it should be 165 at the thigh, not 185- anyone?


yes. this is the true secret to a moist turkey. don't overcook it.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 07:23     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

I thought it should be 165 at the thigh, not 185- anyone?
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 06:44     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

There are plenty of questions and suggestions about this, as well as side dishes under the food, restaurant cooking forum. Just fyi!
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2012 06:21     Subject: Re:Never cooked a turkey - help

There's plenty of time to defrost a small turkey, OP, but you might have trouble finding a 10-pounder now.

Make sure you have a roasting pan!
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2012 23:19     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

Small turkey or chicken. Get it fresh, but make sure it will still be good for next week.

Number 1 newbie mistake: don't forget to take out the gizzards!

I just cover in olive oil, salt, and spices and baste woth the juices while cooking. It's done when the juices run clear (check the temp as well). Many also have a popper that will pop when done (but you'll still want to check it). Best to let it rest before carving so you don't lose all the juices and cause it to dry out.

After cooking take the drippings and whisk with cornstarch and milk for homemade gravy.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2012 23:12     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

You should've pulled out a frozen one on Thursday, so I'd aim for a 10 pound fresh. Whatever you get, make sure there is no bag of giblets tucked inside. You may have to dig for it, but if you cook it, the plastic leaches into the meat.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2012 21:47     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

Get a small 8-10 lb turkey, fresh preferably. You may still be able to order one from Whole Foods. If you buy one frozen, allow two full days for it to thaw in the fridge. Don't leave it out on the counter or bacteria will grow inside, and everyone will be sick after the holiday.

Here's what I do: Wash the turkey inside and out, put a couple bay leaves and a few stalks of celery (cut up) in the cavity. Put it in a roasting pan and into the oven at 425 for 30 minutes. Pull it out, and put a tent of tin foil over it. Turn the temperature down to 350. Put it back in the oven for another hour, take it out, baste it with the pan juices, put it back for another hour, take its temperature (it should be 185 degrees in the thigh to be done). Total cooking time should be about 2 1/2 hours. When it's done, there should be a lot of juice in the pan, and the skin should be tannish or light brown.

I found this simple recipe in the New York Times about 10 years ago, and I've been roasting my turkey this way ever since, with never a problem. Very little work. Calculate about 15 minutes per pound, so a 10 pound turkey should take about 2 1/2 hours.

Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2012 21:30     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

Get one that's 10-12 lbs and if frozen it will take longer to defrost than you expect. I believe the Cooks Illustrated website has free recipes/instructions for the holidays.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2012 21:25     Subject: Never cooked a turkey - help

So...do I go to Whole Foods tomorrow and get a turkey? A fresh one? A frozen one? If fresh do I freeze? Thaw it Wednesday? Tuesday.

Yikes. Doing a very small Thanksgiving (just my DH and young kids) so will aim for a small turkey.

Husband will be helping me, but he has never cooked a turkey either and his suggestion was to call our moms, which I will do tomorrow! Just wondering if I could get any tips from you all. I think we have the side dishes down