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Anonymous wrote:I doubt they will be doing anything significant. We all ask why it is so difficult to weed out the cheaters, but the cheaters must plan this very carefully so not to get caught. Either that or the government is absolutely, extremely lazy about doing something about it. Proof of residency is a joke - anyone can borrow friend's address, or manufacture the pay stub or other paperwork. Because there is no consequence to cheating - other than to get kicked out, but that's not a consequence, it's a result. If they are penalized for cheating, say they owe the tuition for the duration of how long they attended the school, it may change the cheaters' mind about it. But right now, there is nothing to lose so they risk doing it. DC is so broken, or any urban settings are for that matter, I guess, that every other household is a broken unit. Someone other than the parents hold custody or guardianship to the children, and it complicates everything. Schools are not really checking who the legal guardian to the student is. So do I have any new ideas on how we can get this job done? Not really, because all these overpaid employees must have exhausted their resources to do everything they could. My bottom line - yes, I am sick of it too and very frustrated that little can be done.

What you are describing here is really the exception to the rule, at least in Ward 3 schools. Very few families fit the description you're describing. There are 2 or 3 kids of divorce in the whole 2nd Grade at Janney. (and no foster kids that I know of in the entire school.) The numbers are a little higher for Deal, but in this economy, divorce stats are extremely low across the board.

maybe, but based on previous threads, sounds like there are still some address cheaters at janney, just not the pg county type, but the multiple house owning lawyer type using their rental property addresses.

Ward 3 and Janney should be considered exceptions to the rule, not the other way around

Anonymous wrote:I doubt they will be doing anything significant. We all ask why it is so difficult to weed out the cheaters, but the cheaters must plan this very carefully so not to get caught. Either that or the government is absolutely, extremely lazy about doing something about it. Proof of residency is a joke - anyone can borrow friend's address, or manufacture the pay stub or other paperwork. Because there is no consequence to cheating - other than to get kicked out, but that's not a consequence, it's a result. If they are penalized for cheating, say they owe the tuition for the duration of how long they attended the school, it may change the cheaters' mind about it. But right now, there is nothing to lose so they risk doing it. DC is so broken, or any urban settings are for that matter, I guess, that every other household is a broken unit. Someone other than the parents hold custody or guardianship to the children, and it complicates everything. Schools are not really checking who the legal guardian to the student is. So do I have any new ideas on how we can get this job done? Not really, because all these overpaid employees must have exhausted their resources to do everything they could. My bottom line - yes, I am sick of it too and very frustrated that little can be done.

What you are describing here is really the exception to the rule, at least in Ward 3 schools. Very few families fit the description you're describing. There are 2 or 3 kids of divorce in the whole 2nd Grade at Janney. (and no foster kids that I know of in the entire school.) The numbers are a little higher for Deal, but in this economy, divorce stats are extremely low across the board.

And is she protecting herself?

Yes to all questions.

Anonymous wrote:Oh! Really didn't OSSE hire someone to look into the cheating scandal and the results were? This is just enough smoke and mirrors to qualm the City Council, I will betcha that nothing will be conclusive.

I have to agree, PP. The cheating really is scandalous and should be investigated. At this point, I have so little faith in DC CAS results that I wonder why we even bother to waste a week to administer them.

Why has the chancellor not appointed an independent investigator with broad powers and a clear directive to get to the bottom of it? After all, it did not happen on her watch.

Is she protecting the teachers and principals involved? Is she protecting members of Rhee's staff? Is she protecting Rhee?

Oh! Really didn't OSSE hire someone to look into the cheating scandal and the results were? This is just enough smoke and mirrors to qualm the City Council, I will betcha that nothing will be conclusive.

It is complicated - if a child's parent's are not married. And 1 parent lives in DC and a the other parent PG - does the child have a right to a DC education? Is it a custody issue?

But there is also the entitlement and fraud.


For the person who is tired of the Maryland plates, why not call the Office of Attorney General? People are stealing something valued at $12K a year (This is approximately tuition for non-DC residents)

I doubt they will be doing anything significant. We all ask why it is so difficult to weed out the cheaters, but the cheaters must plan this very carefully so not to get caught. Either that or the government is absolutely, extremely lazy about doing something about it. Proof of residency is a joke - anyone can borrow friend's address, or manufacture the pay stub or other paperwork. Because there is no consequence to cheating - other than to get kicked out, but that's not a consequence, it's a result. If they are penalized for cheating, say they owe the tuition for the duration of how long they attended the school, it may change the cheaters' mind about it. But right now, there is nothing to lose so they risk doing it. DC is so broken, or any urban settings are for that matter, I guess, that every other household is a broken unit. Someone other than the parents hold custody or guardianship to the children, and it complicates everything. Schools are not really checking who the legal guardian to the student is. So do I have any new ideas on how we can get this job done? Not really, because all these overpaid employees must have exhausted their resources to do everything they could. My bottom line - yes, I am sick of it too and very frustrated that little can be done.

sounds like a study...not auditing residency-verification residency.

Sounds like a study. Not sure what that really means.

Good. I'm sick of all these Maryland plates at my daughters school

Excellent. I pay plenty in taxes.

I totally agree. They need to take these findings into account when deciding which schools to close.

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like OSSE has hired F.S. Taylor & Associates, PC (FSTA) to conduct an enrollment audit of public and charter schools this year, within the next days that is. In this case, an external auditor will have a much grater incentive to uncover discrepancies than either the schools or government authorities have. Should be interesting.

It's about time. DC taxpayers have been footing the bill for too many non-resident students for too long.

So it looks like OSSE has hired F.S. Taylor & Associates, PC (FSTA) to conduct an enrollment audit of public and charter schools this year, within the next days that is. In this case, an external auditor will have a much grater incentive to uncover discrepancies than either the schools or government authorities have. Should be interesting.