Anonymous
Post 10/02/2012 11:14     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend whose husband works for an organization that is currently challenging the ruling. She is on her husband's plan, which currently covers birth control. However, the company is now ELIMINATING the coverage, which is forcing her to go on her own company's crappy plan.

They are Catholic. They have 4 children. She is on the pills because her mother died of cervical cancer. It is awful all around.


Why would she change plans? Birth control is not that expensive. Even the more expensive pills wouldn't justify a switch to a crappy health plan that will cause you to spend more in other ways.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2012 10:33     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

I have a friend whose husband works for an organization that is currently challenging the ruling. She is on her husband's plan, which currently covers birth control. However, the company is now ELIMINATING the coverage, which is forcing her to go on her own company's crappy plan.

They are Catholic. They have 4 children. She is on the pills because her mother died of cervical cancer. It is awful all around.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2012 10:28     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Hm, what I don't understand is why my private employer has any business knowing if I am on birth control. Prescription drug coverage should pay for prescription drugs. I'm glad this judge saw through the weak arguments.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2012 10:17     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Does this mean that Jehovah's witnesses will pay for blood transfusions?
jsteele
Post 10/02/2012 09:36     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Anonymous wrote:Let's see how it goes when a Muslim employer refuses to hire homosexuals.


Such discrimination by members of any religion is perfectly legal in Virginia and most other states. But, I don't really see the connection with your post and this thread.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2012 08:40     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Let's see how it goes when a Muslim employer refuses to hire homosexuals.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 22:47     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Anonymous wrote:I was hoping it would go the other way. I was going to request a 25% tax refund because war is against my religion.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 21:53     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Anonymous wrote:This is FABULOUS. Made me teary.

"Federal religious freedom law is a shield, not a sword. It protects individuals from substantial burdens on religious exercise that occur when the government coerces action one’s religion forbids, or forbids action one’s religion requires; it is not a means to force one’s religious practices upon others. It does not protect against the slight burden on religious exercise that arises when one’s money circuitously flows to support the conduct of other free-exercise-wielding individuals who hold religious beliefs that differ from one’s own......"


I am. Catholic and I am so glad for this ruling. If the tables were turned I wouldn't want my options limited by someone else's religion. Score one for America.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 21:29     Subject: Re:Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 21:19     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

I was hoping it would go the other way. I was going to request a 25% tax refund because war is against my religion.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 21:06     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Crap!! SCOTUS is back one day and they already issued a ruling!!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 20:51     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Anonymous wrote:Yay! A GW Bush appointee strikes down the employer's religious objection:

https://www.facebook.com/TooInformed/posts/530034570346388


That's absolutely beautiful.

I believe she's a GHW Bush appointee, FWIW.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 20:49     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Love that quote and this boiled down version too: "religious freedom is not a license to “force one’s religious practices upon others.”

to the point that employers already provide money which can be used to buy various thing the employer may not approve of - Rs??? counter point???
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 20:36     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

This is FABULOUS. Made me teary.

"Federal religious freedom law is a shield, not a sword. It protects individuals from substantial burdens on religious exercise that occur when the government coerces action one’s religion forbids, or forbids action one’s religion requires; it is not a means to force one’s religious practices upon others. It does not protect against the slight burden on religious exercise that arises when one’s money circuitously flows to support the conduct of other free-exercise-wielding individuals who hold religious beliefs that differ from one’s own......"
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2012 20:34     Subject: Judge rules against Catholic employer's birth control conscience claim

Yay! A GW Bush appointee strikes down the employer's religious objection:

https://www.facebook.com/TooInformed/posts/530034570346388