Anonymous
Post 09/21/2012 09:30     Subject: Re:Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
Anonymous wrote:
It's all very slight of hand accounting to make it look like its paid for. An even if it was, why should we accept that it's going to take 10 years to pay for $1b to spent over 5. That's part of the reason we're in the mess that we're in.

But none of that matters. It seems to me the bill is a revenue bill, which is required to start in the house. This was just a political ploy by the democrats to make republicans look bad to veterans.

Fucking republicans can fund a war off the books for 800 billion, but when the time comes to help the people who fought the war they are no where to be found.


Agree 100%. Why is it that we needed to fight this pointless war again? Oh, yeah, so all their buddies in contracting could make a fortune at the expense of the middle-class taxpayer and working class people's lives (those who are overwhelmingly represented in the armed services). Gross and terrible.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2012 09:11     Subject: Re:Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
It's all very slight of hand accounting to make it look like its paid for. An even if it was, why should we accept that it's going to take 10 years to pay for $1b to spent over 5. That's part of the reason we're in the mess that we're in.

But none of that matters. It seems to me the bill is a revenue bill, which is required to start in the house. This was just a political ploy by the democrats to make republicans look bad to veterans.

Fucking republicans can fund a war off the books for 800 billion, but when the time comes to help the people who fought the war they are no where to be found.
Freeman
Post 09/20/2012 15:16     Subject: Re:Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
I'm curious if this would even qualify as a revenue bill. From what I have read, it doesn't actually create any new revenue, only allows for improved methods of collecting revenue that is already due.(Back taxes in the examples that I saw) I'm not a constitutional scholar, so I'm not sure if there's precedent on that or not. I know some people to ask later, but I thought I'd throw it out here and see what others thought.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2012 14:44     Subject: Re:Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
This was just a political ploy by the democrats to make republicans look bad to veterans.


What? The bill was bipartisan when written. So the Democrats forced the Republicans to filibuster it?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2012 14:06     Subject: Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
It's all very slight of hand accounting to make it look like its paid for. An even if it was, why should we accept that it's going to take 10 years to pay for $1b to spent over 5. That's part of the reason we're in the mess that we're in.

But none of that matters. It seems to me the bill is a revenue bill, which is required to start in the house. This was just a political ploy by the democrats to make republicans look bad to veterans.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2012 11:58     Subject: Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
In this article, a proponent suggests it WAS fully paid for.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/19/875351/republicans-kill-vets-job-bill/
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2012 20:44     Subject: Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
Anonymous wrote:Because there have been 6 previous veteran jobs bills and this one adds to the deficit, without being fully paid for. Which is in direct violation of last years congressional budget agreement. It was also poorly thought out and was just pushed by Democrats make it look like they were doing some. A lot more work needed to be done on that bill.


But i thought it was fully paid for?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2012 20:18     Subject: Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
Because there have been 6 previous veteran jobs bills and this one adds to the deficit, without being fully paid for. Which is in direct violation of last years congressional budget agreement. It was also poorly thought out and was just pushed by Democrats make it look like they were doing some. A lot more work needed to be done on that bill.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2012 19:49     Subject: Re:Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
Not to hijack but also would like to know why Repubs could not finish ag bill. Can't imagine that Mourdock is real thrilled to have to run on that.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2012 19:46     Subject: Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2012 19:26     Subject: Repubs pls explain- why kill veteran jobs bill?
I am looking for someone other than the liberal media to explain this to me. Thx