NP here. I don't have DCs old enough to take any IQ tests, but I have some experience in gifted education. I also was curious as the OP here when I read the referenced post about HG/PG DCs. IQs above 145 are very rare, and I suspect true even for FCPS. One PP said probably the parents spending $500 for the IQ test are those whose DCs scored in the 120s (and PP didn't say, but presumably so they can appeal to get into AAP). That is certainly true, but from my experience, another set of parents spending $500 for the IQ test are those whose DCs scored very high on achievement/ability tests or otherwise have demonstrated some exceptional giftedness. My assumption is that many DCs who have exceptional IQs are indeed tested. So I'm in agreement with OP's hypothesis that while DCUM seems to be full of kids with high results, the truly rare (IQs over 145 or so) are still truly rare, even in FCPS.

Anonymous wrote:I also have children who have gone through the program (starting when it was called GT), but do not know the IQ numbers. We were for the most part happy with the program, taking into account that there is no such thing as perfect.
I also did not respond since the OP specifically asked for input from parents of children with IQ's over a certain number. I guess we are all good at reading and following directions!

Haha

Anonymous wrote:I have a SN child with an IQ in that range, but the regular AAP classes have too many dc for him and the class moved too slowly *for him*. He is in a full time special ed class where he basically has his own curriculum. I read the thread but didn't respond b/c he is not in an AAP class.

Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:Cogat and NNAT scores over 145 are not rare. WPPSI scores over 145 are not rare. WISC IV scores over 145 are rare, even in northern VA.

Thanks!

I also have children who have gone through the program (starting when it was called GT), but do not know the IQ numbers. We were for the most part happy with the program, taking into account that there is no such thing as perfect.
I also did not respond since the OP specifically asked for input from parents of children with IQ's over a certain number. I guess we are all good at reading and following directions!

I have a SN child with an IQ in that range, but the regular AAP classes have too many dc for him and the class moved too slowly *for him*. He is in a full time special ed class where he basically has his own curriculum. I read the thread but didn't respond b/c he is not in an AAP class.

Cogat and NNAT scores over 145 are not rare. WPPSI scores over 145 are not rare. WISC IV scores over 145 are rare, even in northern VA.

I went ahead and read the thread you are referring to. Your answer was already posted in the thread. The 145 score you reference from that thread is an iq score. Nnat and cogat are not iq tests. For example my dd scored a 149 on nnat and 120s on the rest. I would guess most parents arent bothering to spend 500$on the iq test for no reason. The kids parents who scored in the 120s on the 4 tests are the ones probably paying for the seperate iq test so I would not read too much into the lack of response to this question.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: What are you trying to accomplish with this thread? Iis it really just curiosity! Why?

Truly just curiosity

That is why I stated in my original post that this wasn't a stir the AAP pot thread and that I wanted to hear from people who are the statistics geeks. I am not. I work from the other side of my brain.

This is a transient area, and a lot of people (myself included) find DCUM when researching schools. When one finds this website, it is amazing to read about how many kids score so far beyond the statistical norms. But then this thread pops up, with a specific number, and virtually no one responds. So are those highest scores actually true to the statistical norms, in spite of what all the school forums would lead readers to believe?

You may have better luck finding the information you seek from the AAP office. I am fairly certain they have not done a study of AAP students and WISC-IV scores in several years, but they would have far more accurate statistical information than an anonymous forum like DCUM.

Anonymous wrote:OP: What are you trying to accomplish with this thread? Iis it really just curiosity! Why?

Truly just curiosity

That is why I stated in my original post that this wasn't a stir the AAP pot thread and that I wanted to hear from people who are the statistics geeks. I am not. I work from the other side of my brain.

This is a transient area, and a lot of people (myself included) find DCUM when researching schools. When one finds this website, it is amazing to read about how many kids score so far beyond the statistical norms. But then this thread pops up, with a specific number, and virtually no one responds. So are those highest scores actually true to the statistical norms, in spite of what all the school forums would lead readers to believe?

OP: What are you trying to accomplish with this thread? Iis it really just curiosity! Why?

Anonymous wrote:This is (at least - of what I've seen) the second time someone has tried to point this out about that thread. I think one time was in the thread itself. OP, did you start the HG AAP thread to prove a point? If so, I don't think anything has been proven.

Signed - FFX Cty resident who does NOT have a child in AAP

No, I am really genuinely curious. I am not the other posters you are referencing.

From reading DCUM, scores of posts indicate that this metro area scores far higher than the rest of the country.

Yet, when a specific number was posted in that other thread, very few people responded.

I have always wondered if this area is indeed deviant from the statistical norms of the rest of the country, or if DCUM is just an exageration. I am not interested in a debate about AAP; it was just the AAP thread that got me wondering why there weren't more responses? Is this area actually closer to the statistical score breakdown of the rest of the country than all the school forums make it seem?

This is (at least - of what I've seen) the second time someone has tried to point this out about that thread. I think one time was in the thread itself. OP, did you start the HG AAP thread to prove a point? If so, I don't think anything has been proven.

Signed - FFX Cty resident who does NOT have a child in AAP

I read it to see if it turned into a train wreck, but while my daughter is in AAP, we've never bothered having her IQ tested so I didn't respond because I didn't know if I could 'hang' with the super smart kids.

The one asking for opinions about AAP from parents whose childern scored in the HG or PG range.

145 or above was the specific number the OP used. Only 18 responses. Several from people posting follow ups to their original posts. Only a few of the 18 posters actually responded that they had a child/children who fall into that range. Several of the posters were only discussing the tests and scoring, but not reponding to the OP's questions.

Yet there were hundreds of views (almost 700). It was viewed more than almost all the posts from the same time in the VA forum.

Based on all the other threads about testing (in all the school forums, not just the VA forum), I really would have expected many more responders.

I know that the testing statistics show scoring in the 145+ range to be very rare (so few posts should be expected), but DCUM always makes that range seem common. I was really shocked by the small number or respondents. It was very interesting to see.

This is not a slam thread, nor is it one inviting discussion on the merits of AAP selection. I am just curious to hear others opinions, especially from those of you with knowledge about testing statistics.