Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 09:01     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When america is turned into a bankrupt european non capitalist country I will be personally feel I did my best to vote against it. it's too late , the population dependent on the government exceeds those that are dependent on themselves. When I say population I am including government jobs , contractors , and those on social government services. The only way is to tax the successful people until everyone has equal social statuses. Eventually there is no spark or reward for innovation and we turn into a society satisfied with meaningless jobs that don't create anything that can be sold to generate revenue and taxes. We are screwed because people don't have the foresight to see this and only care about the short term. We will be greece.


I don't understand what you're saying here -- are you saying the only respectable way to earn a living is to be self employed? Goverment workers aren't dependent on themselves? Employees in the private sector are dependent on their employers, just like public sector employees. You have a problem with cops? Teachers? Firemen?



The goal of the private sector is to create profits which builds wealth, the government ones are expenses.


So? Some expenses are necessary to create growth (even if you agree, which I don't, that wealth creation should be the be-all, end-all of a nation). If you don't have cops, then insecurity will drive down profits. If you don't have people managing the ports, you can't take advantage of international trade. If you don't have teachers, you won't have an educated workforce. And when people are employed, by the private or public sector, they become consumers, which again leads to profits.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:57     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When america is turned into a bankrupt european non capitalist country I will be personally feel I did my best to vote against it. it's too late , the population dependent on the government exceeds those that are dependent on themselves. When I say population I am including government jobs , contractors , and those on social government services. The only way is to tax the successful people until everyone has equal social statuses. Eventually there is no spark or reward for innovation and we turn into a society satisfied with meaningless jobs that don't create anything that can be sold to generate revenue and taxes. We are screwed because people don't have the foresight to see this and only care about the short term. We will be greece.


I don't understand what you're saying here -- are you saying the only respectable way to earn a living is to be self employed? Goverment workers aren't dependent on themselves? Employees in the private sector are dependent on their employers, just like public sector employees. You have a problem with cops? Teachers? Firemen?



The goal of the private sector is to create profits which builds wealth, the government ones are expenses.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:55     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote:I don't really get the point if this post, OP, and I'm a liberal Democrat. And you do sound a little smug. Which worries me, because this usnt over til the votes are counted.

However, in the name of empathy I can imagine there are many Republicans who feel about Romney as the many Democrats did about John Kerry in 2004.. A super-rich guy who couldn't relate to the masses, and who flip flopped on the issues, selling his soul just to get elected. But we voted for him anyway because we hated the alternative and hoped he'd stay relatively true to liberal values if elected.


i was going to say the same thing about kerry.

romney is the 2012 john kerry in that the party isnt more excited about getting the sitting president (in this case obama as it was bush in 04) than they are excited about the candidate.

as a democrat, i knew that simply hating bush wasnt enough for kerry to win so i wasnt as shocked as others when bush won re-election. the same goes for obama. you republicans can spew all the birther stuff, unearth obama's college transcripts, and yap all day abot whatever other crap ive read on here (he smells, socialist, etc) but that is not going to be the end all for victory.


its interesting that the economy just sucks ass right now. i dont care what my side says to try to sugar coat it, but any credible republican worth their salt should be ahead of obama right now.

there is still time i guess but at this rate, the constant changing of "messages" by romney is not a good sign. plus where is paul ryan? i thought he was a solid pick but it seems like you guys dropped the ball and not taking advantage of anything he brings to the ticket right now.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:47     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
I'm voting for Romney because I'm racist, and I hate poor people and women.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:45     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote:When america is turned into a bankrupt european non capitalist country I will be personally feel I did my best to vote against it. it's too late , the population dependent on the government exceeds those that are dependent on themselves. When I say population I am including government jobs , contractors , and those on social government services. The only way is to tax the successful people until everyone has equal social statuses. Eventually there is no spark or reward for innovation and we turn into a society satisfied with meaningless jobs that don't create anything that can be sold to generate revenue and taxes. We are screwed because people don't have the foresight to see this and only care about the short term. We will be greece.


I don't understand what you're saying here -- are you saying the only respectable way to earn a living is to be self employed? Goverment workers aren't dependent on themselves? Employees in the private sector are dependent on their employers, just like public sector employees. You have a problem with cops? Teachers? Firemen?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:42     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
When america is turned into a bankrupt european non capitalist country I will be personally feel I did my best to vote against it. it's too late , the population dependent on the government exceeds those that are dependent on themselves. When I say population I am including government jobs , contractors , and those on social government services. The only way is to tax the successful people until everyone has equal social statuses. Eventually there is no spark or reward for innovation and we turn into a society satisfied with meaningless jobs that don't create anything that can be sold to generate revenue and taxes. We are screwed because people don't have the foresight to see this and only care about the short term. We will be greece.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:27     Subject: Re:Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
I thought Obama was supposed to make those Muslim countries love USA and be nice to us, by power of his charm.


When did the Obama campaign or administration promise this to you?

And in what ways will Romney's policies not "lead us down the same road as Greece"? He is proposing less revenue and is completely vague about what, if any, spending he will cut.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:23     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
I don't get these posts either. What is your point? Do you think you will somehow make us vote for Obama? Do you really want to discuss because frankly you don't sound like it. He actually did get a bounce and his numbers with independent voters in swing states are pretty darn good. But when you dismiss all that followed with a statement about how Rs have nothing to discuss so only attack Obama then me thinks you actually dot want to discuss anything.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 08:16     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
I'm just someone who's planning to vote for Romney. I don't run his campaign, so I can't really answer to those comments. And I don't really care who else is voting for him. I'm a little old for peer pressure. In my experience, Democrats are much more concerned about what others think about them. I think it's funny that the OP thinks Republicans don't post much here out of some kind of fear of ridicule. Speaking for myself, I really just don't care what other people think, so I don't feel the need to bash people over the head with it. I don't have to constantly convince myself I'm right.

I'm typing this as I'm watching coverage of the assassination of the US ambassador to Lybia. I thought Obama was supposed to make those Muslim countries love USA and be nice to us, by power of his charm.

Obama gave us his word that if congress passed the stimulus, unemployment would stay under 8%. Well, I've lost count of how many months it's been above that number. That's just one of the ways Obama has shown his absolute incompetence when it comes to the economy. He's leading us down the same road as Greece. But if you want to vote for a guy who can give a good speech, go ahead.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 07:57     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: if you look around these forums, you can't find a single strong argument from the republican side on any issue.

Come on republicans. You are safe here





No, this isn't a safe place to have a frank discussion about politics.


Really? You mean this place is not polite. I think it is very difficult to call an anonymous Internet forum unsafe, when the topic is not even a personal one.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 07:53     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
No, this isn't a safe place to have a frank discussion about politics.


You keep saying this and I really have a hard time understanding your point. Are you afraid that that if you are pro-Romney someone is going to hunt you down and beat you? Are you afraid of being stoned or deported to a Siberian work camp? Come on, the worse that is going to happen is that someone is going to counter your post with an opposing viewpoint.


Obviously I don't mean physically unsafe. And I don't think that when the op referred to a safe place they meant safe as compared to being put in a work camp. What I meant was that it's not a place where you can have a reasonable political conversation without being called hateful names. it doesn't have to be physical to still be hostile

Also this is in theory anonymous board, but when you call out republican posts you often seem to imply something about their previous posts. I can't remember saying it wasn't a safe place for discussion before, although I don't deny that I might have. But you never seem to indicate that you have gone through the posts of people who agree with you.
jsteele
Post 09/12/2012 06:47     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote:
No, this isn't a safe place to have a frank discussion about politics.


You keep saying this and I really have a hard time understanding your point. Are you afraid that that if you are pro-Romney someone is going to hunt you down and beat you? Are you afraid of being stoned or deported to a Siberian work camp? Come on, the worse that is going to happen is that someone is going to counter your post with an opposing viewpoint.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 06:22     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
I don't really get the point if this post, OP, and I'm a liberal Democrat. And you do sound a little smug. Which worries me, because this usnt over til the votes are counted.

However, in the name of empathy I can imagine there are many Republicans who feel about Romney as the many Democrats did about John Kerry in 2004.. A super-rich guy who couldn't relate to the masses, and who flip flopped on the issues, selling his soul just to get elected. But we voted for him anyway because we hated the alternative and hoped he'd stay relatively true to liberal values if elected.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 04:58     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Anonymous wrote: if you look around these forums, you can't find a single strong argument from the republican side on any issue.

Come on republicans. You are safe here





No, this isn't a safe place to have a frank discussion about politics.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2012 01:36     Subject: Republicans, please tell me how you REALLY feel...
Ok, I'm going to be frank here. Romney is losing. And you guys don't even like him very much anyway. It strikes me that if you look around these forums, you can't find a single strong argument from the republican side on any issue. Here's the way I see things right now...

Romney did not even get a bounce out of the convention. The entire convention lacked substance, minorities, and energy.

he spent much of last week revamping his campaign strategy, and came back only to flip flop on issues such as healthcare and double down on his omission of the war from his speech. And he has decided to just start making stuff up, such as saying that Obama wants to take In God We Trust off coins.

Republicans have been doing and saying stupid things left and right (Akins). Every time they speak, dems just get to sit back and enjoy the show...followed by fireworks.

Ryan was supposed to be the silver bullet and he has turned out to be a joke. best known for the Ryan Plan, but he can't run on it because it's ridiculous and inhumane. He can't stop lying for some reason.

I'm sorry, but this whole campaign is just a disaster, and we haven't even gotten to the debates yet. I think most of us expect Obama to wipe the floor with Romney in the debates.

So, I had noticed that my republican friends had been laying low before the convention. They just didn't have anything of substance to say. After the conventions, they started to just completely flip out - rambling on and on about Obama, and 90% of it is lies, spins, and exaggeration. they are looking desperate. so I would love to know what the republicans are really thinking, the stuff they don't want to say out loud.

Come on republicans. You are safe here. Completely anonymous. You will never be tied to your comments. Just let it all out...

Do you feel that Romney has a very slim chance, if any at all?

Are you disappointed that the House refused to cooperate with Obama over the last 2 years? Do you wish they realized that their constituents would like them more if they got stuff done - even with a dem president? With their incredibly low approval rating, are you concerned that there is no way they will keep the majority?

Are yo embarrassed for your party leaders when they get into these interviews and can't say anything other than talking points?

Were you disappointed it the speeches at the convention because they lacked substance?

Are you finding it difficult to come up with anything positive to say about Romney, so you bash Obama instead?

Are you starting to realize that it really IS unrealistic to say that Obama should have bush's 8-year mess cleaned up in less than half the time?

Are you a single issue voter? What is that issue? Do you really think republicans will do anything about it?

do you wish your party would just reset, and start over with new people out in front once this election is over?

Do you feel kind of guilty that you have to resort to Obama bashing because you realize he is a nice guy (even if you don't agree with him)?

Do you make comments about Obama that you know are not true (or at least suspect so you don't fact check)? When you blame Obama for things such as high gas prices, do you sincerely think he caused the high gas prices, or do you actually know better but just say it hoping other people believe it?

Please share your thoughts, and be honest. Trust me, we understand. We've had a hard time getting enthused about some of our past candidates. Again, not trying to sound smug. I'm honestly curious.