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American exceptionalism, Land of immigrants.. Affordable Health Care cuts, Eliminate, Dept of Education, EPA, SEC, FDA, FEMA all MUST GO, Those earning over 500k pay no taxes they'll be creating jobs to employ evey one in the world. THAT'S HOW

Ask Bobby Jindal if he wants FEMA cut. Oh please I hope that's in the Ryan plan. Timing is everything.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

Thanks for playing!

are you the one who posted about medical sales yesterday? If so, sorry I'm repeating myself. the medical sales industry will do just fine with Obamacare! Yes, there will be a 2.3% tax excise tax. But this will be more than balanced by the fact that you are gaining millions of potential customers. Even if this did hurt your field, is that really a valid reason to deny healthcare to millions? You will actually be very fortunate to be in the medical sales field once Obamacare is going full force. Congrats!

Obama wants the 1% to pay their fair share. Do you think it's fair for the poor and middle class to pay a higher percentage in income taxes than the wealthy?

what do you mean when you say "businesses making over $250,000?" Do you have an understanding of how tax brackets work? Marginal tax rates? the difference between revenue and profit? First of all, the higher tax rate will only apply to the income earned above $250,000. So, if the income is $250,020, the increase will only apply to $20 of the income. So one would need to make a lot of money to see a significant hit from the increase. Also, the business owner is only taxed on their take home pay. So, the owner will not pay taxes on money that goes to payroll or is put back into the business. Only the owner's take home pay. A very small percentage of business owners make more than $250K. I believe only 3% of small business owners will be affected. Remember, they do not pay the higher rate on the first $250K that they take home. Obama has done a lot to benefit small business owners. Trying to do even more but can't get it through the House...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

So you are pissed that Obamacare will result in less medical spending and therefore hurts your revenues.

How the eff do we fix health care costs unless someone like you gets paid less money? Do you think there is some magical hole into which insurance premiums are dumped, to be vaporized? And that if we close that hole, everybody wins????

Anonymous wrote:Why cant any conservatives on this board answer this simple question? Are you telling us to research it ourselves
because you don't know the answer? It is starting to seem that way. Liberals will post specifics in most threads. Why is it do hard to do the same?

Because they're too busy talking to furniture

Why cant any conservatives on this board answer this simple question? Are you telling us to research it ourselves
because you don't know the answer? It is starting to seem that way. Liberals will post specifics in most threads. Why is it do hard to do the same?

American exceptionalism, Land of immigrants.. Affordable Health Care cuts, Eliminate, Dept of Education, EPA, SEC, FDA, FEMA all MUST GO, Those earning over 500k pay no taxes they'll be creating jobs to employ evey one in the world. THAT'S HOW

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

Anonymous wrote:I don't get all these questions. Can you not do your own research? Do you really think someone is going to come on here and say, "you are so right. I won't vote for them!"

Uh, the libs have done plenty of research. We are asking for some from your side! I have tried, and I can't find anything substantial from the R/R camp. I can't find anything that indicates the above issues were better during the Bush years than Obama. So, we are asking why you think things would be better under R/R? It's a simple question.

I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

I don't get all these questions. Can you not do your own research? Do you really think someone is going to come on here and say, "you are so right. I won't vote for them!"

I dunno. I'm worried about the future of the country if Romney is elected. For example, I recently read that their plan for cutting NOAA funding will imperil the agency's ability to forecast hurricanes, which will lead to more costly disasters (more property damage, more lives lost). Just one example.

The Romney/Ryan plan will create jobs, cut taxes and save Medicare by ensuring that the White House isn't occupied by a socialist Kenyan Muslim.

I'm also interested in some specifics on this. You go to the R/R website, and it's nothing but fluff - no specifics on what they intend to do.

Interesting that none of the R/R supporters have chimed in with answers or sources for this information.

Ryan said the country needs a turnaround. Romney is a turnaround specialist. That's what they do at Bain. Stop asking so many questions and just have blind faith in your leaders and hope it doesn't get you killed (with apologies to Bruce Springsteen).

In a another discussion a poster asked an awesome question that I seriously am really curious about the answer. I am democratic, and feel like I am well educated on the different sides, however I honestly would like to learn and see the other side without just hearing "Romney will improve economy, repeal obamacare" can anyone give real reasons based in facts for these arguments?

I hope its okay I posted the Posters original question below because they phrased it so well :


So please tell us - how will R/R improve economy, debt, jobs, school choice? How did 8 years of bush improve any of these? If they were successful in repealing Obamacare, why is that a good thing. What's wrong with Obamacare.

Also, if you reply to my questions, please take a few minutes to fact check your argument before posting. But skip over the conservative sources. That's not fact checking.