Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 17:43     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, this is interesting. What if an ad containing a lie was proved beyond a reasonable doubt was paid for with taxpayer money? OP, I like the way you think.

Taxpayer money is not used to fund political ads. You just told a lie. By your reasoning, you should be imprisoned.

Ouch. http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml

Check this link out before you imprison me. Thanks!

One reason unexplained links are banned is that people waste time looking at them out of curiosity. For example, I looked at this one only to find that it was about the $3 voluntary payment. I suppose that since it goes in with your taxes, it's taxpayer money? But it's a voluntary contribution, separate from your taxes, not tax money. If that's taxpayer money, so is my direct contribution to a political party, since it also comes from a taxpayer.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 16:26     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Anonymous wrote: Why is this not a law? Oh wait. I know. because the people who would need to pass that law are the very people who like to spew lies. That's unfortunate. Can you imagine how different things would be if they could get jail time or even just a very very hefty fine for spreading these lies? What if Paul Ryan stepped up to the podium last night knowing that his speech could land him in jail? How would that have changed the content of his speech?

It's a fantasy world, I know, but if anyone would like to play along, what exactly would it take to pass such a law and how could it be enforced? Or maybe a truly bipartisan committee that is dedicated to fact checking? Where an equal number of dems and reps sit down together and fact check every accusation. Then the candidate is held accountable and forced to publicly admit that he lied.

I know I sound ridiculous, but I honestly think this is what it would take for us to trust these candidates and to be truly informed. I would NEVER let my children run around spewing lies about people. Shouldn't my congressmen and presidents be held to the same standard?


Lobby the FCC to reinstate, with teeth, the Fairness Doctrine. Of course, Fox would voluntarily shut down before actually rising to the level of providing accuracy and balance.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 16:13     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, this is interesting. What if an ad containing a lie was proved beyond a reasonable doubt was paid for with taxpayer money? OP, I like the way you think.


Taxpayer money is not used to fund political ads. You just told a lie. By your reasoning, you should be imprisoned.


Ouch. http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml

Check this link out before you imprison me. Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 15:49     Subject: Re:Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Oh come on. You realize, don't you, that there are situations where the law prohibits us from saying certain things? If you don't understand that, then I hope you are never privy to classified information.

How about defamation, libel and slander?

Maybe even a form of treason when speaking about an incumbent?

Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 14:16     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Anonymous wrote:Even when liberals like michelle Obama say true things like barak smelling horrible, most liberals try to pretend he smells normal. Embrace the truth Libs!


even joking (which it doesnt seem you are), this isnt even in context to the discussion.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:56     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

We should behead them!

-- George III
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:51     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Anonymous wrote:OP, this is interesting. What if an ad containing a lie was proved beyond a reasonable doubt was paid for with taxpayer money? OP, I like the way you think.


Taxpayer money is not used to fund political ads. You just told a lie. By your reasoning, you should be imprisoned.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:49     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

OP, this is interesting. What if an ad containing a lie was proved beyond a reasonable doubt was paid for with taxpayer money? OP, I like the way you think.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:36     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

First Amendment aside, I don't think you could prove that most statements you disagree with are lies. There is so much that is open to interpretation, etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:32     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Politics as usual. What's the point in listening to any of these speeches?
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:30     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

obama would've been jailed in 2008
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:25     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Anonymous wrote:See the First Amendment of the Constitution.


end of thread
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:08     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

See the First Amendment of the Constitution.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2012 13:05     Subject: Shouldn't it be a crime to spew lies about your opponent during a campaign?

Why is this not a law? Oh wait. I know. because the people who would need to pass that law are the very people who like to spew lies. That's unfortunate. Can you imagine how different things would be if they could get jail time or even just a very very hefty fine for spreading these lies? What if Paul Ryan stepped up to the podium last night knowing that his speech could land him in jail? How would that have changed the content of his speech?

It's a fantasy world, I know, but if anyone would like to play along, what exactly would it take to pass such a law and how could it be enforced? Or maybe a truly bipartisan committee that is dedicated to fact checking? Where an equal number of dems and reps sit down together and fact check every accusation. Then the candidate is held accountable and forced to publicly admit that he lied.

I know I sound ridiculous, but I honestly think this is what it would take for us to trust these candidates and to be truly informed. I would NEVER let my children run around spewing lies about people. Shouldn't my congressmen and presidents be held to the same standard?