Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever really seen a healthy looking Vegan?

I know. Milk and hamburgers are waaay healthier.

Omnivore here. I eat probably 6oz of meat per day and don't drink milk, except in my coffee.

Sorry, but I've never seen a vegan over 40 years old who does not look very unwell. Something about their skin looks grey and pallid. Kind of like the perpetually have the flu.

You all should educate yourselves on vegan diets before making these generalizations.

You don't "need" animal protein.

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Sallow complexion, dry hair and skin, super-ugly skinny or too much belly fat due to eating too many carbs because they can't satisfy their hunger without eating some sort of animal protein.

This is exactly what I see in Clinton.

His face is gaunt, but he still has a lot of belly fat. I don't know, I also feel like its also how Steve Jobs appeared when he was in the final stages of his life.

he's 66. he's just getting older. And yes, he's lost a lot of weight, which can make your face age even quicker.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever really seen a healthy looking Vegan?

I know. Milk and hamburgers are waaay healthier.

I see, so non-vegans fill their diets with hamburgers and milk? duh....

Nope. Sallow complexion, dry hair and skin, super-ugly skinny or too much belly fat due to eating too many carbs because they can't satisfy their hunger without eating some sort of animal protein.

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever really seen a healthy looking Vegan?

I know. Milk and hamburgers are waaay healthier.

recent photo:

Have you ever really seen a healthy looking Vegan?

People (especially older people) can look haggard and sick when they are too skinny, or when we're used to seeing them looking more round.

The latest Us magazine had a shot where he looked really old and haggard. I looked at it too and did a double-take - reminded me how much my old father has aged in the past few years. And how great Hillary still looks, and how active. Yeah, I know that someone will probably post one of those photos emphasizing her wrinkles, etc, and I'm not trying to suggest she's a freak of nature - just that she seems really active and healthy and totally freaking competent whereas her husband seems to be fading into a frail old age.

He's lost a ton of weight. But as far as I know that's from going to a vegan diet and nothing else.

that's what the vegan lifestyle does to you. IMHO.

probably lack of B vitamins and protein.

Links, OP.

Have you seen him recently? I just get the feeling that his health issues are much more extensive than he lets on.

Anyone else?