Anonymous wrote:TJ students will not be spoon fed in the best colleges. Students need to learn to learn and leave helicoptor spoon feeding parents and public school teachers at home. These kids are not in elementary school!

They are "teaching" themselves what the teacher should at the very least cover in class. We are talking about stuff the teacher needs to cover -- you are suppose to follow a curriculum!!!! The students should not have to go home and teach themselves what the teacher should go over. And yes, my child would "learn" the stuff ahead of time and maybe the teacher will go over it and maybe not.

Some of these teachers will solve the problems but get the wrong answers and then refuse to correct themselves when they are shown it is wrong by studeents (yes, this happened in child's chemistry class). The teacher insisted she was correct and that was that. After awhile, they just ignored her since she gave the wrong answers and her teaching sucked. The students helped each other to overcome this teacher otherwise they were in a world of trouble when they took the AP Chemistry class. It was the luck of the draw -- you get the bad teacher and you are in trouble when you move onto the higher level course.

Anonymous wrote:

The FCPS vision for TJ was a school for those who are passionate in math and science and excel in them. If DC needs a lot of prepping to get in, perhaps DC does not belong there. That is probably why 1/3 of the freshman class needed remedial math and science tutoring. They prepped and got in - once there, they couldn't keep up. Not very good for a teen's self esteem.

Ilogical speculative crap with no evidential support.

Perhaps speculative - not sure it's illogical - please define "crap". What would your evidential reasoning be for 1/3 of the class needing remedial help?

Anonymous wrote:It is true that students need to learn how to learn and that they should not be spoon-fed. On the other hand, the role of a teacher is not just to present content in the classroom and then test the kids and give them a grade at the end of the year If kids at TJ are teaching themselves math, then why go to class? why have a teacher? Let the kids study on their own without going to the classroom but have them tested periodically.

not a bad idea. Some math teachers do more harm than good. But if you don't understand something, you need to be able to go ask someone. The teacher [should] fill that role.

It is true that students need to learn how to learn and that they should not be spoon-fed. On the other hand, the role of a teacher is not just to present content in the classroom and then test the kids and give them a grade at the end of the year If kids at TJ are teaching themselves math, then why go to class? why have a teacher? Let the kids study on their own without going to the classroom but have them tested periodically.

TJ students will not be spoon fed in the best colleges. Students need to learn to learn and leave helicoptor spoon feeding parents and public school teachers at home. These kids are not in elementary school!

Just remember all TJ students need to have a "B" unweighted average to stay at TJ. It isn't just the "application" process that is a problem. The math department at TJ needs to be revamped. Teachers do not teach the same stuff yet all the students are required to take the deparmental tests. They have students not being taught what is being tested.

TJ students will tell you they will "self-teach" themselves the material but apparently some of the new group of students are unable to do so. Don't be shock if the class of 2016 will have the same issues. Yes, TJ has some very bad teachers -- child has had quite a few of them -- just because someone has a PHD or doctorate doesn't mean they can teach!

The FCPS vision for TJ was a school for those who are passionate in math and science and excel in them. If DC needs a lot of prepping to get in, perhaps DC does not belong there. That is probably why 1/3 of the freshman class needed remedial math and science tutoring. They prepped and got in - once there, they couldn't keep up. Not very good for a teen's self esteem.

On the contrary, if only those needing remedial help prepped...this issue would disappear!

The FCPS vision for TJ was a school for those who are passionate in math and science and excel in them. If DC needs a lot of prepping to get in, perhaps DC does not belong there. That is probably why 1/3 of the freshman class needed remedial math and science tutoring. They prepped and got in - once there, they couldn't keep up. Not very good for a teen's self esteem.

Ilogical speculative crap with no evidential support.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FCPS vision for TJ was a school for those who are passionate in math and science and excel in them. If DC needs a lot of prepping to get in, perhaps DC does not belong there. That is probably why 1/3 of the freshman class needed remedial math and science tutoring. They prepped and got in - once there, they couldn't keep up. Not very good for a teen's self esteem.

I attended a magnet high school in another state. I don't think the kids who were having difficulty prepped to get into the school. If my memory serves me right, entrance was based on SSAT and/or IOWA exams. My memory is fuzzy because this was 20 years ago.

Math always came easy to me. I scored 99th percentile on anything math with ZERO help from my parents. I don't think they ever sat with me to do homework.

There will always be kids who have difficulty. Someone has to be at the bottom of the class. You can blame ESOL kids, kids who have parents who got tutors for them, etc.

huh

the problem at TJ isn't the prepping, it is the increased weight given to the essays. Applicants can convince the admissions people they are really, really passionate about science (whether they realy are or not), and very likely adults help them write the essays, or just write them outright, and prep them what to say.

Anonymous wrote:The FCPS vision for TJ was a school for those who are passionate in math and science and excel in them. If DC needs a lot of prepping to get in, perhaps DC does not belong there. That is probably why 1/3 of the freshman class needed remedial math and science tutoring. They prepped and got in - once there, they couldn't keep up. Not very good for a teen's self esteem.

I attended a magnet high school in another state. I don't think the kids who were having difficulty prepped to get into the school. If my memory serves me right, entrance was based on SSAT and/or IOWA exams. My memory is fuzzy because this was 20 years ago.

Math always came easy to me. I scored 99th percentile on anything math with ZERO help from my parents. I don't think they ever sat with me to do homework.

There will always be kids who have difficulty. Someone has to be at the bottom of the class. You can blame ESOL kids, kids who have parents who got tutors for them, etc.

The FCPS vision for TJ was a school for those who are passionate in math and science and excel in them. If DC needs a lot of prepping to get in, perhaps DC does not belong there. That is probably why 1/3 of the freshman class needed remedial math and science tutoring. They prepped and got in - once there, they couldn't keep up. Not very good for a teen's self esteem.

I answer the question: yes. Someone knows when others will be held. However, that person is not me.

Another poster:

Are you illiterate? Read the question. Your response fails to address or anser the question. Your score = F. You will do poorly in school for failure to carefully read the question.

Anonymous wrote:I just signed my child up for TJ Prep next week at Poe MS. Does anyone know when others will be held?

Surely one prep class is enough.

I just signed my child up for TJ Prep next week at Poe MS. Does anyone know when others will be held?