Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 14:37     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To answer the OP's question, the answer is a clear and obvious "no". Now here is something I find kind of interesting. Think back on Bill Clinton for a moment. Most Democrats and liberals probably look back on Clinton as a good president. If a conservative today espoused Clintonian policies such as welfare reform and DADT, he would be accused of being a racist homophobe. And no Democrat could possibly get elected today with Clintonian views/policies. That is how bad things have gotten.


Racists are always looking for straw men answers to why they get called racist.


huh? if i voted for him last time, but think he has been a disappointment and don't vote for him again, i'm a racist? and have only become one in the past three years?

and what about the fact that ~95% of black voters chose obama -- if they voted for him BECAUSE he is black, does that make them racist, too?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 13:22     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:To answer the OP's question, the answer is a clear and obvious "no". Now here is something I find kind of interesting. Think back on Bill Clinton for a moment. Most Democrats and liberals probably look back on Clinton as a good president. If a conservative today espoused Clintonian policies such as welfare reform and DADT, he would be accused of being a racist homophobe. And no Democrat could possibly get elected today with Clintonian views/policies. That is how bad things have gotten.


Racists are always looking for straw men answers to why they get called racist.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 11:30     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:To answer the OP's question, the answer is a clear and obvious "no". Now here is something I find kind of interesting. Think back on Bill Clinton for a moment. Most Democrats and liberals probably look back on Clinton as a good president. If a conservative today espoused Clintonian policies such as welfare reform and DADT, he would be accused of being a racist homophobe. And no Democrat could possibly get elected today with Clintonian views/policies. That is how bad things have gotten.


Bravo! Great exmple!
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 11:25     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

To answer the OP's question, the answer is a clear and obvious "no". Now here is something I find kind of interesting. Think back on Bill Clinton for a moment. Most Democrats and liberals probably look back on Clinton as a good president. If a conservative today espoused Clintonian policies such as welfare reform and DADT, he would be accused of being a racist homophobe. And no Democrat could possibly get elected today with Clintonian views/policies. That is how bad things have gotten.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 10:35     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

How would anyone know who you voted for?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 10:29     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Sure, but you'll still be thought of as a moron unless you have a few hundred million dollars in an offshore bank account. Because trust me, the .001% are the only ones who will benefit from a Romney presidency.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 10:20     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:

Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?
What a scary thought!


Washington Post - Jonathan Capehart
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/its-not-ok-to-ignore-this-pro-romney-ad/2012/07/25/gJQA7qvV9W_blog.html

Millions of Americans were swept up in the drama of the 2008 presidential contest and were proud to cast a ballot that helped elect the first African American president of the United States. Doing so was and will remain one of our nation’s crowning achievements. But there’s no denying that many of those same millions have soured on Obama because of what they believe he hasn’t been able to achieve. Yet, they are conflicted…

By telling potential voters “It’s OK to make a change,” the RNC is acknowledging all that I mention above. It’s OK to like the guy personally but not vote for him again. This is not a popularity contest. It’s OK to vote against the black guy.. You gave him a shot. He gave it his best shot. He failed. And the most effective message is: “It’s OK to make a change” — and not be thought of as a racist.

So Capehart is worried that people are NOT going to vote for Obama even though he is black? Who is racist here?

That’s why the “It’s OK to make a change” ad is the most dangerous for Obama’s reelection efforts. It give those few, yet crucial, undecided voters the pass they might be looking for to vote against Obama.



Wow. Millions of voters might actually think that it is OK to vote against Obama even though he is black. This is the most fightening RNC Ad yet. I can see why Mr. Capehart at the Washington Post is so worried.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 10:09     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

It seems that every time you see a democrat commentator on the news, they pull the race card. They insinuate, or sometimes outright state, that anyone who disagrees with Obama's policies or views him as a failure does so because they are racist at worst, or just don't care for black people at best.

It is getting very stale. It happens on this board, and you can see it for yourself if you objectively go through old threads.

People who don't care for his politics and what he has done to this country can view him as incompetent. The fact he is biracial has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 09:09     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/26/executive-order-white-house-initiative-educational-excellence-african-am

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/obama-backs-race-based-school-discipline-policies/

Eric Holder went to public school in NYC and was selected for a GT program. He attended Stuyvesant where entrance is based solely on a HARD exams. Then Columbia. That school has not varied in admissions testing like TJ [multiple measures designed to increase URM but just got more Asians].

Obama -Sidwell. Holder-GDS. These men and their families have children in K-12. Women the age of their wives are grandmothers in DC. Children raising children.

How about them spending time in DC schools and compare curriculum and family involvement? Age of parents? Teen pregnancy?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/18/AR2011021805372.html




Please don't ever cite the Daily Caller as a source for anything ever again.


I know! The punchline for that article is the "expert" commentary of Hans Bader, impressive sounding counsel for the "Competitive Enterprise Institute", whose credentials include "a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights".

In reality, his primary activity appears to be blogger for the Washington Examiner and writer of letters to the editor, trading on the credential of a low paid position at CEI, where he appears to have little if any published policy work. His credentials as a "former official" at Dept of Education are not even listed, which makes me think he was a summer intern or associate there for a few years after law school.

So this is Daily Caller's formula: create a story with a point of view you want to advance, then make it valid by finding someone who makes a living by getting press quotes, who works at a "friendly" "think tank". Fudge his resume a little, and you are off and running.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 07:52     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/26/executive-order-white-house-initiative-educational-excellence-african-am

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/obama-backs-race-based-school-discipline-policies/

Eric Holder went to public school in NYC and was selected for a GT program. He attended Stuyvesant where entrance is based solely on a HARD exams. Then Columbia. That school has not varied in admissions testing like TJ [multiple measures designed to increase URM but just got more Asians].

Obama -Sidwell. Holder-GDS. These men and their families have children in K-12. Women the age of their wives are grandmothers in DC. Children raising children.

How about them spending time in DC schools and compare curriculum and family involvement? Age of parents? Teen pregnancy?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/18/AR2011021805372.html




Please don't ever cite the Daily Caller as a source for anything ever again.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 07:52     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Team Romney really seems to be playing the "I'm white and he's not" card, don't they? I mean, that comment about how Romney understands the special relationship with Britain because he's Anglo-Saxon was beyond the pale.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 07:50     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

Anonymous wrote:So you have to vote for him or be a racist? Don't be a twit! Vote for him or against him on his merits alone.


No. The RNC keeps injecting racial politics, this time making the assertion that he got elected because he is black. You might as well say he got into the White House on the affirmative action plan.

No, he got elected because on the two major issues he was on the right side. He promised to get us out of Iraq and he said the economy was in trouble. McCain would not promise a timeline for withdrawal, and he did not believe the economy was in trouble.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 07:12     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/26/executive-order-white-house-initiative-educational-excellence-african-am

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/obama-backs-race-based-school-discipline-policies/

Eric Holder went to public school in NYC and was selected for a GT program. He attended Stuyvesant where entrance is based solely on a HARD exams. Then Columbia. That school has not varied in admissions testing like TJ [multiple measures designed to increase URM but just got more Asians].

Obama -Sidwell. Holder-GDS. These men and their families have children in K-12. Women the age of their wives are grandmothers in DC. Children raising children.

How about them spending time in DC schools and compare curriculum and family involvement? Age of parents? Teen pregnancy?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/18/AR2011021805372.html

Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 05:31     Subject: Re:Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?

So you have to vote for him or be a racist? Don't be a twit! Vote for him or against him on his merits alone.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2012 00:50     Subject: Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?



Can you vote against Obama and not be thought of as a Racist?
What a scary thought!


Washington Post - Jonathan Capehart
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/its-not-ok-to-ignore-this-pro-romney-ad/2012/07/25/gJQA7qvV9W_blog.html

Millions of Americans were swept up in the drama of the 2008 presidential contest and were proud to cast a ballot that helped elect the first African American president of the United States. Doing so was and will remain one of our nation’s crowning achievements. But there’s no denying that many of those same millions have soured on Obama because of what they believe he hasn’t been able to achieve. Yet, they are conflicted…

By telling potential voters “It’s OK to make a change,” the RNC is acknowledging all that I mention above. It’s OK to like the guy personally but not vote for him again. This is not a popularity contest. It’s OK to vote against the black guy.. You gave him a shot. He gave it his best shot. He failed. And the most effective message is: “It’s OK to make a change” — and not be thought of as a racist.

That’s why the “It’s OK to make a change” ad is the most dangerous for Obama’s reelection efforts. It give those few, yet crucial, undecided voters the pass they might be looking for to vote against Obama.



Wow. Millions of voters might actually think that it is OK to vote against Obama even though he is black. This is the most fightening RNC Ad yet. I can see why Mr. Capehart at the Washington Post is so worried.