Completely babyproof his room, ditch the crib, sleep on a dbl mattress on the floor with him. nurse lying down, no transition to the bed. Eventually, once weaned, work on slowly removing yourself-sit and cuddle, sit next to w/o touching, so on, til you don't have to be in sight for him to fall asleep.
This is what we did. Ferber did not work, kid hated the crib. Magicaly started sleeping through the night at 2 years and we did the slow removal.

Anonymous wrote:OMG -- vomiting? Seriously, just put him in your bed and nurse him. It won't last forever, I PROMISE!

Sadly, tried that too. He rolls over, sees dada (his favorite playmate) and starts chatting and reaching for him to play. In the middle of the night. If DH slept elsewhere he'd probably just try to play with me.

I would be willing to keep nursing or rocking to sleep if i could then make the transfer to crib or even our bed, but as soon as i put him down he wakes and screams, no matter how sound asleep (or not) he is. Am totally paralyzed.

OMG -- vomiting? Seriously, just put him in your bed and nurse him. It won't last forever, I PROMISE!

Anonymous wrote:Not worth it. Seriously. What do you need to do to comfort him in the night? Nurse? Rock him?

Yes. For 2 or more hours, in the middle of the night. Thats the problem. I nurse, he falls asleep, i put him in crib, he wakes and cries, i try again, same thing, i stand over him and soothe while he is in crib but i can never leave. I havent had a block of 5 hours of sleep in over a year and its not fair to my older one that im such a basket case. Any other suggestions?

Anonymous wrote:There are other methods too. Ferber is not the only game in town. Try Kim the sleep lady (can't remember her last name but someone on this forum probably will). Fever worked for our DC. He also vomited a few times, it was awful (especially when we were about to move and all clean sheets were packed away!). Anyway, I hate to tell you but honestly I think some kids are horrible sleepers and will remain so no matter what. I had to lie in bed with mine until he was past 3 and I actually could explain to him why I couldn't/didn't want to do it any more. Then with # 2, it was not an issue, she would wave me out of the room and tell me to close the door. Go figure.

It's Kim West, The Sleep Lady. Her method is called The Sleep Lady Shuffle. My DS had severe GERD and we could not sleep train until 11 months. We attempted CIO and it was a massive fail (and when I say attempted, we did it for about 5 nights and my DS would scream at the top of his lungs and vomit all over the crib). We tried The Sleep Lady Shuffle on the advice of a friend who knew her. Now, I have to say that we altered it slightly b/c the 3 days for each portion were not enough time for my DS. We ended up doing 9 days by his bed, 9 days in the middle of the room and 9 days in the hallway. It worked for him. We occasionally had to sit in the hallway to help him, and we did have to completely re-sleep train him after a vacation, but it worked and it worked well.

OP, whichever method you choose (there are others I know) you need to stick with it for at least 5 days. You also have to be utterly consistent (don't veer from how you set up whichever method you choose).

There are other methods too. Ferber is not the only game in town. Try Kim the sleep lady (can't remember her last name but someone on this forum probably will). Fever worked for our DC. He also vomited a few times, it was awful (especially when we were about to move and all clean sheets were packed away!). Anyway, I hate to tell you but honestly I think some kids are horrible sleepers and will remain so no matter what. I had to lie in bed with mine until he was past 3 and I actually could explain to him why I couldn't/didn't want to do it any more. Then with # 2, it was not an issue, she would wave me out of the room and tell me to close the door. Go figure.

CIO wasn't an option for us because of sobbing until he vomited and we ended up letting him sleep in our bed when he had rough transitions. We found that if we let him sleep there for a couple of hours he settled enough to be transferred later. When he got jumpy like that, easily startled, he only got more clingy if we tried to force it. I would also rock him or hold him longer to settle him into sleep. It sucked during those stretches, but there really wasn't any other way to settle him once he got wound up like that.

So, if you have any other options you are willing to try to help him relax, I can only say that's what worked for us.

My son would do the same thing.

We couldn't ferberize and he still doesn't STTN at 2.5. It is what it is. 10 months was the hardest for us, so it gets better. Hang in there.

The other side of the story: It may not work for all babies but one night is not giving it a chance. Try five days. Your son will be fine even if you give up at that point. (Like the PP, I did a variation, going in every five minutes for 30 seconds.)

Momma hang in there. He is still young and might be hungry in the middle of the night! I have a 2 yr old and she still needs comfort at bed. Now - that is waiting too long, LOL. So don't worry about 10 months and comfort him if he needs it at night, feed him, rock him, etc.

22:00 here--- and despite what the books say, teaching your child to fall asleep on his or her own is NOT a golden ticket to a good night's sleep. My child was great at going to sleep... but he still woke up every 2-3 hours until I weaned him at 13 months.

Not worth it. Seriously. What do you need to do to comfort him in the night? Nurse? Rock him?

1. Not all things work for all babies
2. I forget all the ferber rules, but I dont think standing by the bed for two hours is part of it. Unless you just mean you gave up, which I could totally get if your poor kid vomited.

We did a variation of ferber. Basically, if my son cried - like a whiny cry, we let it go. But if he screamed freaking bloody murder - as in I could tell he was stressed - I went in, let him know I was there, calmed him down and tried again. My husband said I was nuts to "hear" a differnece in the cries, but at the time I was sure I could tell a difference.

Basically, you have to find out what works for your child. Have you tried the rocking until almost asleep? I think we did this for naps. It was like stage 1: baby sound asleep. Stage 2 Baby just fell asleep. Stage 3: baby so drowsy they can't fight sleep, and then gradully move to less drowsy, less asleep.

I promise you, you have not ruined your baby by "waiting too long." But it may take longer.

Good luck to you!

The truth is that Ferber doesn't work for all kids. You think your cortisol leves are high? What do you think your aby feels? Stop torturing your kid and yourself.

Tell me this will work quickly, please. My cortisol levels are insane, i'm still shaking an hour later. I didnt want to take this route but there is no other option. Hes too big to get into his crib asleep like i used to, he just wakes up and cries. I stood over his crib last night from midnight til 2 am rubbing his tummy and he still woke up every time i removed my hand, so we have ro teach him to fall sleep on his own. But i hate it! Hes 10 mos, fwiw. I know we waited too long but he had severe reflux for 6 mos and i wanted to get him of all the meds, etc., before we worried about sleeping.