Anonymous
07/11/2012 16:08
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The problem is the tax structure in Ca. The property tax does not reflect the current value of the property. Have family out there. Live in a house in Palo Alto. Houses in their neighborhood sell for 4-10 million. They paid property tax on like 235k. Also, Ca federal tax dollars return is low, like 78 cent on the dollar. These are the result of the conservatives- conservative socialism at it best.
This is because California voters, conservative and liberal alike, passed Prop 13 in 1978, which severely limits property taxes (and has other ramifications for taxation as well).
... thereby proving the electorate is not wise, but profoundly stupid.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 15:48
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Anonymous wrote:The problem is the tax structure in Ca. The property tax does not reflect the current value of the property. Have family out there. Live in a house in Palo Alto. Houses in their neighborhood sell for 4-10 million. They paid property tax on like 235k. Also, Ca federal tax dollars return is low, like 78 cent on the dollar. These are the result of the conservatives- conservative socialism at it best.
This is because California voters, conservative and liberal alike, passed Prop 13 in 1978, which severely limits property taxes (and has other ramifications for taxation as well).
Anonymous
07/11/2012 15:45
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Anonymous wrote:The problem is the tax structure in Ca. The property tax does not reflect the current value of the property. Have family out there. Live in a house in Palo Alto. Houses in their neighborhood sell for 4-10 million. They paid property tax on like 235k. Also, Ca federal tax dollars return is low, like 78 cent on the dollar. These are the result of the conservatives- conservative socialism at it best.
Taxes have nothing to do with socialism. Socialism has nothing to do with wealth redistribution. It's no wonder we're going down the tubes in this country when there's so much ignorance about basic economic concepts.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 15:41
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
The problem is the tax structure in Ca. The property tax does not reflect the current value of the property. Have family out there. Live in a house in Palo Alto. Houses in their neighborhood sell for 4-10 million. They paid property tax on like 235k. Also, Ca federal tax dollars return is low, like 78 cent on the dollar. These are the result of the conservatives- conservative socialism at it best.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 14:54
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
I'm just curious what any of this has to do with socialism and state-owned enterprises?
Anonymous
07/11/2012 14:47
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
California overall has an image of being progressive, but southern California where San Bernardino is located, is rather conservative, just like San Diego and Orange County.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 14:43
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
So is it true that OP decided this city was liberal just because it was in California? If so, you're not too bright, are you, OP?
jsteele
07/11/2012 14:41
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:San Berdoo is pretty damn conservative, to the point of being a hotspot of white supremacist groups.
no http://blog.sfgate.com/scavenger/2009/05/19/the-most-conservative-and-liberal-california-cities-are/
San Bernardino is not included in that report. What are you hoping to prove?
that its not even in the top 10 conservative cities in California as a PP has stated.
No PP said it was in the top 10 conservative cities. But, by the same token, it is not in the top 10 liberal cities.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 14:10
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:San Berdoo is pretty damn conservative, to the point of being a hotspot of white supremacist groups.
no http://blog.sfgate.com/scavenger/2009/05/19/the-most-conservative-and-liberal-california-cities-are/
San Bernardino is not included in that report. What are you hoping to prove?
that its not even in the top 10 conservative cities in California as a PP has stated.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 13:49
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Um, let's not forget that Orange County, the most conservative part of CA, went bankrupt a long time ago. Nice try.
jsteele
07/11/2012 13:45
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:San Berdoo is pretty damn conservative, to the point of being a hotspot of white supremacist groups.
no http://blog.sfgate.com/scavenger/2009/05/19/the-most-conservative-and-liberal-california-cities-are/
San Bernardino is not included in that report. What are you hoping to prove?
Anonymous
07/11/2012 13:38
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
Anonymous wrote:San Berdoo is pretty damn conservative, to the point of being a hotspot of white supremacist groups.
no http://blog.sfgate.com/scavenger/2009/05/19/the-most-conservative-and-liberal-california-cities-are/
Anonymous
07/11/2012 13:31
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
San Berdoo is pretty damn conservative, to the point of being a hotspot of white supremacist groups.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 13:28
Subject: Re:Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
California cities are going bankrupt because of the housing crisis and referenda limiting taxes to next to nothing.
Neither of which was caused by liberals.
Neither of which was caused by liberals.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 13:18
Subject: Another Liberal California city GOES bankrupt, another nail in the coffin for Socialism
HAH. Is this the america the liberals want?
San Bernardino, CA, votes for bankruptcy filing3
The city council of San Bernardino, California, voted on Tuesday to file for bankruptcy, marking the third time in recent weeks a city in the most populous U.S. state has opted to seek protection from its creditors.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/11/us-sanbernardino-bankruptcy-idUSBRE86A05320120711
San Bernardino, CA, votes for bankruptcy filing3
The city council of San Bernardino, California, voted on Tuesday to file for bankruptcy, marking the third time in recent weeks a city in the most populous U.S. state has opted to seek protection from its creditors.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/11/us-sanbernardino-bankruptcy-idUSBRE86A05320120711