Anonymous
06/10/2012 19:35
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
Anonymous wrote:I go to my children's schools every day for the last 4 years. The leadership and teachers do NOT reflect the growing diversity of the student body. personal experience to support the poster. How about your school?
Yeah, they're mainly white. (It's obvious you're a sock puppet, but I'll humor you.)
I think your very broad statistics will confirm (a) there's zero, nada, zip data for the narrow group that consists of white kids of white MoCo administrators, but (b) white kids generally do pretty well in the MSA stakes (that 5% income thing again). The half dozen links you provided are *useless* for making any point about MoCo administrators' kids. Useless, I tell you!!!
However, the links all show great achievements by Asians. So your concern doesn't seem to be about those Somali or Hispanic immigrants, but about Asians. Geez, I hope you're not trying to make some really ugly point about black school administrators and Asians. Although last I checked, Weast was still white.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 19:18
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
I go to my children's schools every day for the last 4 years. The leadership and teachers do NOT reflect the growing diversity of the student body. personal experience to support the poster. How about your school?
There is no research that indicates that teachers need to look like their students to be effective.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 18:59
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
What about the upper 5% -- some of whom are warmly nestled right here in Montgomery County with MCPS in the silos of Potomac, Bethesda and Chevy Chase?
Anonymous
06/10/2012 18:53
Subject: To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
This article indirectly attacks boomers like they are racist or something, but then delivers no point - no punchline.
WTF is the point of the article?
That the younger residents in the U.S. are increasingly hispanic? That a lot of hispanics and AA's are living in poverty? WELL DUH! WhoTF didn't know that? And btw, a lot of people, white, black, purple, whoever, are all living in poverty - HALF of America is living around or below the poverty level. I hope the Post got this article free.
WTF is the point of the article?
That the younger residents in the U.S. are increasingly hispanic? That a lot of hispanics and AA's are living in poverty? WELL DUH! WhoTF didn't know that? And btw, a lot of people, white, black, purple, whoever, are all living in poverty - HALF of America is living around or below the poverty level. I hope the Post got this article free.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 18:49
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
I go to my children's schools every day for the last 4 years. The leadership and teachers do NOT reflect the growing diversity of the student body. personal experience to support the poster. How about your school?
Anonymous
06/10/2012 18:43
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
Anonymous wrote:If you live in Montgomery County each school and MCPS has the data on MSA performance. The College Board has the data on SAT scores. Since this is general information in the public domain it's not necessary to spoon feed you. If you are computer literate the google search button awaits. Just open your eyes and try and digest the information.
And this will shed light on the academic chops of MoCo administrators' kids, how exactly? It won't, obviously. If you're going to make a statement like that, you need to provide some data. Not just waving your hands at some school-wide MSA stats.
MoCo fails in a lot of ways. But not in the particular way you're suggesting.
Look, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person. But I'm able to tell fact from fiction -- unlike you, apparently.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 18:22
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
The changing face and surname of the county and country:
NMSF for Montgomery County (MCPS)
http://connectedcommunities.us/showthread.php?t=46007 (2011)
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/minutes/1980/minutes.102780.pdf (1980)
AP scholars for Montgomery County (MCPS)
http://ww2.gazette.net/stories/113005/aspesch163602_31903.shtml (2005)
USAMO winners
http://www.maa.org/news/usamo2012/winners.html (2012)
http://amc.maa.org/e-exams/e8-usamo/picsusamo.shtml (changing face pictorial from 1990 onwards)
US Presidential Scholars
http://connectedcommunities.us/showthread.php?t=43902
NMSF for Montgomery County (MCPS)
http://connectedcommunities.us/showthread.php?t=46007 (2011)
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/minutes/1980/minutes.102780.pdf (1980)
AP scholars for Montgomery County (MCPS)
http://ww2.gazette.net/stories/113005/aspesch163602_31903.shtml (2005)
USAMO winners
http://www.maa.org/news/usamo2012/winners.html (2012)
http://amc.maa.org/e-exams/e8-usamo/picsusamo.shtml (changing face pictorial from 1990 onwards)
US Presidential Scholars
http://connectedcommunities.us/showthread.php?t=43902
Anonymous
06/10/2012 17:25
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
If you live in Montgomery County each school and MCPS has the data on MSA performance. The College Board has the data on SAT scores. Since this is general information in the public domain it's not necessary to spoon feed you. If you are computer literate the google search button awaits. Just open your eyes and try and digest the information.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:32
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
Anonymous wrote:Precisely. The kids of the old guard sit squarely in the middle and elimination of pathways for high performers (largely children of recent immigrants) is a feeble attempt to keep these high performers within their sights and "close" the gap. Thanks for making my point. If children of the old guard MCPS leadership were present day high performers this policy proposal would gathering dust at the bottom of a Rockville filing cabinet.
Mark these words. MCPS will reverse this blunder much like the College Board has done.
No thanks for misinterpreting/spinning my post.
Your argument is based on assumptions that look like total hot air - unless you can show some data or other proof for your following statements:
1. The kids of "old guard MCPS leadership" are not "present day high performers." Huh? I don't know any of their kids, do you? Data, please!!
2. Please explain how Weast is "old guard MCPS leadership." I'm no big fan of Weast, but he's been there, what, a year?
3. Prove to us, with data or studies, that "high performers" are "largely children of recent immigrants."
Anonymous
06/10/2012 12:12
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
Assuming Moco does have a plot to keep down high performing immigrants, and likewise the whole country. I think 2.0 would be a feeble tactic and wouldn't work. So rest easy.... The cream will rise to the top.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 11:28
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
Restoring math pathways for advancement in no way interferes with MCPS mantra of teaching to the middle. This can merrily continue ad lib.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 11:24
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
Precisely. The kids of the old guard sit squarely in the middle and elimination of pathways for high performers (largely children of recent immigrants) is a feeble attempt to keep these high performers within their sights and "close" the gap. Thanks for making my point. If children of the old guard MCPS leadership were present day high performers this policy proposal would gathering dust at the bottom of a Rockville filing cabinet.
Mark these words. MCPS will reverse this blunder much like the College Board has done.
Mark these words. MCPS will reverse this blunder much like the College Board has done.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 11:12
Subject: To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
The College Board called off the special test at Amherst. They were forced to realize that this was something that would benefit kids who could afford a $3,000 prep session at Amherst instead of, you know, working a summer job.
MCPS sucks in many ways, but I don't buy that it's part of a plot by the "old guard" to shut out "immigrants." If anything, MCPS is all about teaching to the middle because the top kids will take care of themselves.
MCPS sucks in many ways, but I don't buy that it's part of a plot by the "old guard" to shut out "immigrants." If anything, MCPS is all about teaching to the middle because the top kids will take care of themselves.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 09:10
Subject: Re:To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics
It appears this poster shares this 30,000 foot perspective:
Who makes new changes in policy, rules and regulations? The fading old guard still in charge.
For whom do these changes tend to benefit the most? The children of this fading old guard.
For whom do these chnages tend to impact in the worst manner? The children of the recent immigrants perceived by the old guard as threats
Recent issues:
A. MCPS decision to do away with subject acceleration in Math (typically a subject embraced by the children of recent immigrants)
B. College Board decison to encourage prepping for the SAT reasoning and aptitude by rewarding these $5, 000/ for 3 weeks students with the unique opportunity to take the SAT exam in August -- immediately after their intensive SAT prep tutorial SAT is never offered in the summer but during the regular helter skelter school year) with adjustment of the exam summer test date to the fall for applicants to college (a tactic sought after by children of the fading old guard as children of recent immigrants do not shell out $5,000 for 3 week SAT prep and are not the predominant beneficiaries of all other accommodations provided by the College Board)
Who makes new changes in policy, rules and regulations? The fading old guard still in charge.
For whom do these changes tend to benefit the most? The children of this fading old guard.
For whom do these chnages tend to impact in the worst manner? The children of the recent immigrants perceived by the old guard as threats
Recent issues:
A. MCPS decision to do away with subject acceleration in Math (typically a subject embraced by the children of recent immigrants)
B. College Board decison to encourage prepping for the SAT reasoning and aptitude by rewarding these $5, 000/ for 3 weeks students with the unique opportunity to take the SAT exam in August -- immediately after their intensive SAT prep tutorial SAT is never offered in the summer but during the regular helter skelter school year) with adjustment of the exam summer test date to the fall for applicants to college (a tactic sought after by children of the fading old guard as children of recent immigrants do not shell out $5,000 for 3 week SAT prep and are not the predominant beneficiaries of all other accommodations provided by the College Board)
Repasted the links:
The College Board, like MCPS leadership, is made up of the old generation elite (old guard) and the education estabilshment that are watching a new generation of high performers that are not their own children but are children of recent immigrants. Imagine the College Board sanctioning prep for the SAT reasoning and aptitude test (heresy)?
Imagine yet the College Board rewarding the elite test prep payers (old guard) with a "special SAT exam session" in the summer? Note, others prepping in the summer can't take the test until the fall with course work, college applications and extracurriculars in the mix.
Guess what, thrifty recent immigrant children do not shell out five grand ($5,000) for a 3 week summer prep capped off with the opportunity to take the SAT immediately afterward at peak prep mode. The old establishment guard does this.
An in a "TIA" moment (blind spot) the College Board gives this group an advantage. Why? For precisely the same reason the old guard here in MCPS wants to block the advancement of these new high flying performers by eliminating pathways to give their own children an advantage and "close" the gap. This strategy is "quietly" permeating all phases of education in America. The children of the educational leadership and old guard are no longer the high performers and hence it's time to change policy and the rules (while they are still in charge).
The College Board blundered and they were called out. MCPS, too, has blundered and they are being called out. Who benefits and stands to gain the most from from these attempted policy changes? Who is the worse off because of these attempted policy changes?
http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/...h-on-new-sat-summer_12424.aspx
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/p...012/06/06/gJQAeLZpIV_blog.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-...d-sat-20120605,0,5866106.story
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/sat-summer_n_1560537.html
http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/...h-on-new-sat-summer_12424.aspx
Anonymous
06/10/2012 08:43
Subject: To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics