Anonymous wrote:
They really need to go back to the way they identified kids up until 1993. A kid with 140+ was eligible for the center. A kid with 130+ was eligible for school based services. The problem with the current system is that the parents of kids in the 120+ want their kids in with the kids with 140+. That is a huge difference and it has changed the entire scope of the program.

Yes -- and have local level IV at every ES. Then the 120+ kids can get differentiation at their neighborhood school.

what's wrong with being the smart kid at the base school?
would you rather that kid have to be the bottom of the barrel at the AAP center?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to trick the system. Have you child test for the program. If it works out, great. If not, accept it and stop wasting everyone's time/money with appeal after appeal. All you are doing is potentially inserting another undeserving body into an AAP classroom, adversely affecting the kids who got in on their own merits.

+1

Anyone who needs a "recipe" does not belong in the program.
They really need to go back to the way they identified kids up until 1993. A kid with 140+ was eligible for the center. A kid with 130+ was eligible for school based services. The problem with the current system is that the parents of kids in the 120+ want their kids in with the kids with 140+. That is a huge difference and it has changed the entire scope of the program.

[list]Wow - there is someone on here who realizes this is a HUGE PROBLEM! The current way is screwing the "smart kids" at their base schools!

Another note: Yes if you want your borderline kid in - better kiss ass, suck up, bow down, etc..., with the AAP resource teacher at your school.

Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to trick the system. Have you child test for the program. If it works out, great. If not, accept it and stop wasting everyone's time/money with appeal after appeal. All you are doing is potentially inserting another undeserving body into an AAP classroom, adversely affecting the kids who got in on their own merits.

+1

Anyone who needs a "recipe" does not belong in the program.
They really need to go back to the way they identified kids up until 1993. A kid with 140+ was eligible for the center. A kid with 130+ was eligible for school based services. The problem with the current system is that the parents of kids in the 120+ want their kids in with the kids with 140+. That is a huge difference and it has changed the entire scope of the program.

Stop trying to trick the system. Have you child test for the program. If it works out, great. If not, accept it and stop wasting everyone's time/money with appeal after appeal. All you are doing is potentially inserting another undeserving body into an AAP classroom, adversely affecting the kids who got in on their own merits.

1) The ones posted on here are more likely to be borderline cases.

2) Tests can be subjective too. Or rather, they measure what they measure, and the subjective part is mapping them into giftedness.

Assume gifteness == IQ over X (as measured by WISC).

COGAT is IQ + Prep - other factors (group testing, attention spans, etc).

GBRS can identify the other factors. Prep can not be identified.

So, what happens is CogAT is discounted in the process.

Tess are tests. GBRS is the subjective part.

Most of the kids I've seen getting in this year were on the bubble - this is about them and not the straightforward cases.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading various thread on this forum, it is evident that AAP level IV eligibility is fairly subjective.

It may be considered by some to be "fairly subjective" for the on-the-bubble kids, but not for the kids that clearly need AAP. Therefore, for the majority of kids, it is not "fairly subjective."

I agree with this completely. The whole thread is just another opportunity to tout the WISC. Oh, and the key part" "from a private psychologist." This person just never gives up.

Wait! I thought we wanted GMU to do the test, and that private shrinks were discounted... doh!

Whose recipe is this? This may not be the original one. Methinks there is something VERY suspicious goings on... I'll keep an eye on things

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading various thread on this forum, it is evident that AAP level IV eligibility is fairly subjective.

It may be considered by some to be "fairly subjective" for the on-the-bubble kids, but not for the kids that clearly need AAP. Therefore, for the majority of kids, it is not "fairly subjective."

I agree with this completely. The whole thread is just another opportunity to tout the WISC. Oh, and the key part" "from a private psychologist." This person just never gives up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading various thread on this forum, it is evident that AAP level IV eligibility is fairly subjective.

It may be considered by some to be "fairly subjective" for the on-the-bubble kids, but not for the kids that clearly need AAP. Therefore, for the majority of kids, it is not "fairly subjective."

I believe OP's point is to the contrary, an increasing number of kids in AAP were on-the-bubble and that they may in fact be in the majority. That you would even think to argue with that suggests she described your own, so touche.

The facts speak for themselves. No argument or opinion.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/215608.page#2144734

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading various thread on this forum, it is evident that AAP level IV eligibility is fairly subjective.

It may be considered by some to be "fairly subjective" for the on-the-bubble kids, but not for the kids that clearly need AAP. Therefore, for the majority of kids, it is not "fairly subjective."

I believe OP's point is to the contrary, an increasing number of kids in AAP were on-the-bubble and that they may in fact be in the majority. That you would even think to argue with that suggests she described your own, so touche.

Anonymous wrote:Reading various thread on this forum, it is evident that AAP level IV eligibility is fairly subjective.

It may be considered by some to be "fairly subjective" for the on-the-bubble kids, but not for the kids that clearly need AAP. Therefore, for the majority of kids, it is not "fairly subjective."

Well summarized!

Reading various thread on this forum, it is evident that AAP level IV eligibility is fairly subjective. If you really want DC in the program and are not sure DC will cruise in on his/her own, the recipe is:

-prep a little for the standardized tests
-make sure DC's teacher, principal and AART like DC and you (or rather don't dislike either of you)
-fill the questionnaires and submit work samples/letters of recommendations even if people say they don't count for much
-get a WISC from a private psychologist if needed

The above seemed to work for many whose kids otherwise may not have been selected. Not sure this is what the county envisioned....