Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 11:55     Subject: Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

The "technology enhanced items" were very difficult for some third graders to navigate.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 10:14     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK. Took a look here https://vastatic.testnav.com/vatrngqc/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=6126&testnavFormId=Practice%20Test No big deal on the multiple answers. The questions are very clear.


the questions are clear but no answers, so you don't know if your Dc is getting them right or not.


[list]I meant "clear" as in my child should have understood there were possibly multiple answers to one question. As for the answers, they either know the material or they don't - is my opinion. I don't know if some of my answers were correct or not but my child seemed to.


same here. I wasn't sure but the kid said he knew the answers. Not so sure... but we shall see.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 10:06     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK. Took a look here https://vastatic.testnav.com/vatrngqc/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=6126&testnavFormId=Practice%20Test No big deal on the multiple answers. The questions are very clear.


the questions are clear but no answers, so you don't know if your Dc is getting them right or not.


[list]I meant "clear" as in my child should have understood there were possibly multiple answers to one question. As for the answers, they either know the material or they don't - is my opinion. I don't know if some of my answers were correct or not but my child seemed to.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 09:58     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:OK. Took a look here https://vastatic.testnav.com/vatrngqc/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=6126&testnavFormId=Practice%20Test No big deal on the multiple answers. The questions are very clear.


the questions are clear but no answers, so you don't know if your Dc is getting them right or not.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 09:50     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

OK. Took a look here https://vastatic.testnav.com/vatrngqc/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=6126&testnavFormId=Practice%20Test No big deal on the multiple answers. The questions are very clear.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 09:12     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many of these have multiple answers that the student must get all the exact answer to get the question correct.


[list]Any idea if the students were made aware of this? Going from testing that has always been "one" correct answer to "multiple" correct answers is doomed to failure if this was not explained and/or practiced! How could a school system conduct a test in this way? WTF.


it was explained on the FCPS website, but I imagine many, many people did not know enough to look there.


What about the teachers administering the tests? Were they aware of this?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 09:09     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many of these have multiple answers that the student must get all the exact answer to get the question correct.


[list]Any idea if the students were made aware of this? Going from testing that has always been "one" correct answer to "multiple" correct answers is doomed to failure if this was not explained and/or practiced! How could a school system conduct a test in this way? WTF.


it was explained on the FCPS website, but I imagine many, many people did not know enough to look there.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 08:55     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:Many of these have multiple answers that the student must get all the exact answer to get the question correct.


[list]Any idea if the students were made aware of this? Going from testing that has always been "one" correct answer to "multiple" correct answers is doomed to failure if this was not explained and/or practiced! How could a school system conduct a test in this way? WTF.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2012 08:47     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:Actually the number of questions you have to get right as INCREASED to pass and pass/advance. In past years you had to get 30 for pass and 42 for an advanced score. Those numbers have been changed to 31 and 45 repspectively. The new standards have pushed more critical thinking and less drill memorization. The test is also now made up of non-multiple choice questions such as: fill in the blank; make a graph; multiple response; drag and drop. Many of these have multiple answers that the student must get all the exact answer to get the question correct. As a math teacher I applaud the higher level thinking on the SOL. My only complaint is that there was not enough practice material for students. Also, the state did a poor job in making principals and teachers aware of ALL the changes and what would be best to help the students succeed...administrators, teachers, parents, and students went in this spring blind to the test.


sux, because going from 6th to 7th, the student needs a pass advanced to get into Algebra I. Despite a 98 or 99 on the IAAT, it may still be a challenge to get 45 out of 50 on a harder test than last year's student took.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2012 07:37     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Actually the number of questions you have to get right as INCREASED to pass and pass/advance. In past years you had to get 30 for pass and 42 for an advanced score. Those numbers have been changed to 31 and 45 repspectively. The new standards have pushed more critical thinking and less drill memorization. The test is also now made up of non-multiple choice questions such as: fill in the blank; make a graph; multiple response; drag and drop. Many of these have multiple answers that the student must get all the exact answer to get the question correct. As a math teacher I applaud the higher level thinking on the SOL. My only complaint is that there was not enough practice material for students. Also, the state did a poor job in making principals and teachers aware of ALL the changes and what would be best to help the students succeed...administrators, teachers, parents, and students went in this spring blind to the test.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2012 18:45     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

I believe that the math material is the same, but the questions on the test are now word problems and not just math problems. This requires reading skills, extracting the information that is important from the problem and converting it into the traditional math problem.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2012 14:45     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Anonymous wrote:Well, that would explain why my DD had no trouble with the practice SOLs but said that actual test was much harder and included things not covered in school. Very frustrating to find out about this now! This will impact her placement in 7th grade math. I wonder if the grading scale will be adjusted (ie: if you can still be pass advanced with more questions wrong).


It looks like there may be changes:

http://www.doe.virginia.gov/administrators/superintendents_memos/2012/081-12.shtml

Anonymous
Post 05/29/2012 14:44     Subject: Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

I found this on the FCPS website -- looks like it was updated earlier this month:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/news/mathsol.shtml
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2012 14:35     Subject: Re:Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Well, that would explain why my DD had no trouble with the practice SOLs but said that actual test was much harder and included things not covered in school. Very frustrating to find out about this now! This will impact her placement in 7th grade math. I wonder if the grading scale will be adjusted (ie: if you can still be pass advanced with more questions wrong).
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2012 10:47     Subject: Virginia math SOLs - new standards?

Does anyone know the real deal on the Virginia math SOLs and the new standards? I've read on other forums and email lists that this year's math SOLs include testing on areas that were not covered this academic year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/va-students-prepare-to-take-tougher-math-standards-exams/2012/05/17/gIQAJYHuVU_story.html