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Anonymous wrote:
The unnecessary rudeness on this board amazes me. Would you say this to someone in this way when speaking to them in person? Even if it was something OP came up with, does it really deserve a condescending response?

Yes.

Well, certainly shows that you need education yourself -- on multiple fronts.

Good luck to you, PP! There are some wonderful education resources at the Parent Resource Center:

http://www.fcps.edu/cco/prc/

I note some resources that may be helpful for you.

Celebrate Calm
http://www.fcps.edu/cco/prc/resources/events/docs/workshops_2010-11/Handout--October2ConferencePRC.pdf

Twice Exceptional - Gifted Students with Learning Challenges
http://www.fcps.edu/cco/prc/resources/events/docs/workshops_2010-11/PDF_ParentConference_January7.pdf

Great Expectations!
http://www.fcps.edu/cco/prc/resources/events/docs/workshops_2010-11/BISHayfieldES.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

I don't think entrance to AAP qualifies as "exceptional" in FFX. Seems pretty common. 504s seems pretty common too. So what's with the "twice exceptional" language? The word exceptional, besides meaning outside the norm, also means "above average" so, again, doesn't really seem to apply since having a SN just makes a child different, not more highly intelligent.

Is "twice exceptional" something you came up with or is that some weird feel-good language in the curriculum?

The unnecessary rudeness on this board amazes me. Would you say this to someone in this way when speaking to them in person? Even if it was something OP came up with, does it really deserve a condescending response?

Yes.

Not sure how 8:12 could conclude that "twice exceptional" is "feel good" language. There's nothing that feels good about having a bright child struggle and having to fight on two fronts - to remedy the LDs (for which school provides no support, because child is not below average) while struggling to stay in the gifted program for which she qualified in spades. For DC, the hard stuff is easy, while the easy stuff is surprisingly hard. So it's "exceptional," but unfortunately not in a good way.

My son is in AAP, and has a 504 plan for ADHD combined type. We had hoped the more challenging curriculum might do away with some of his immaturity/attention issues. (always thought perhaps he was bored when he breezed through work quickly). He is doing great (all A's in 4th) academically, but we still struggle with inattention, impulsivity, etc. Also, the increased need for self-organization has been a challenge we are working on. The thing is, it is no worse in AAP than it was in the regular classroom, and based on his grades, and the opinion of his teacher, and the 504 committee, he needs to be in AAP. So, ultimately, we still have struggles, but academically it has been a great fit.

08:12 - you should be able to get "twice-exceptional", you seem to be a twice-moronic individual, LOL.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

I don't think entrance to AAP qualifies as "exceptional" in FFX. Seems pretty common. 504s seems pretty common too. So what's with the "twice exceptional" language? The word exceptional, besides meaning outside the norm, also means "above average" so, again, doesn't really seem to apply since having a SN just makes a child different, not more highly intelligent.

Is "twice exceptional" something you came up with or is that some weird feel-good language in the curriculum?

You are such an idiot. Correction . . You are such an effing idiot.

This term has been used for quite some time to describe children who have gifted intelligence as well as special needs, such as my own child. I'm appalled that you would call it "weird feel-good language." You are really a rude person.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

I don't think entrance to AAP qualifies as "exceptional" in FFX. Seems pretty common. 504s seems pretty common too. So what's with the "twice exceptional" language? The word exceptional, besides meaning outside the norm, also means "above average" so, again, doesn't really seem to apply since having a SN just makes a child different, not more highly intelligent.

Is "twice exceptional" something you came up with or is that some weird feel-good language in the curriculum?

You are such an idiot. Correction . . You are such an effing idiot.

The PP did not make up the term "twice exceptional", it's just the latest in educational jargon to describe kids who are in an AAP type program who also have 504s and IEPs. The field is full of jargon, and while people might disagree with the language, it is essentially value free and merely identifies a group of kids who need accommodations to access the AAP curriculum.

OP, I would talk to the center. It shouldn't be a problem, though. There are lots of 2e kids in my DD's class and they seem happy and doing well (obviously, I don't know how they are doing on their report cards or anything).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

I don't think entrance to AAP qualifies as "exceptional" in FFX. Seems pretty common. 504s seems pretty common too. So what's with the "twice exceptional" language? The word exceptional, besides meaning outside the norm, also means "above average" so, again, doesn't really seem to apply since having a SN just makes a child different, not more highly intelligent.

Is "twice exceptional" something you came up with or is that some weird feel-good language in the curriculum?

The unnecessary rudeness on this board amazes me. Would you say this to someone in this way when speaking to them in person? Even if it was something OP came up with, does it really deserve a condescending response?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

I don't think entrance to AAP qualifies as "exceptional" in FFX. Seems pretty common. 504s seems pretty common too. So what's with the "twice exceptional" language? The word exceptional, besides meaning outside the norm, also means "above average" so, again, doesn't really seem to apply since having a SN just makes a child different, not more highly intelligent.

Is "twice exceptional" something you came up with or is that some weird feel-good language in the curriculum?

People are looking for reasons to be mean to other people. Ignore the language if it bothers you. Try to behave as you would have your child behave.

Anonymous wrote:"twice exceptional"

Some resources for you:

Twice Exceptional Students:
www.wrightslaw.com/info/2e.guidebook.pdf

Hoagies' Gifted: Twice Exceptional:
www.hoagiesgifted.org/twice_exceptional.htm

Twice-exceptional Learners - FCPS:
http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/column/columntwicelearners.shtml

The Twice Exceptional Dilemma:
www.nea.org/assets/docs/twiceexceptional.pdf

Twice Exceptional Guide - Ohio:
www.edresourcesohio.org/files/twice_exceptional_guide.pdf

Twice Exceptional:
http://www.sde.idaho.gov/site/rti/rtiConfDocs/Sherri%20Dismuke%20and%20Robin%20Sly/RTI%20the%20Inclusion%20of%20Gifted%20and%20Twice%20Exceptional%20Students%20s.pdf

Teaching Exceptional Children:
http://orion.neiu.edu/~ebhunt/Twice%20Except/CEC%20twice%20except.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

I don't think entrance to AAP qualifies as "exceptional" in FFX. Seems pretty common. 504s seems pretty common too. So what's with the "twice exceptional" language? The word exceptional, besides meaning outside the norm, also means "above average" so, again, doesn't really seem to apply since having a SN just makes a child different, not more highly intelligent.

Is "twice exceptional" something you came up with or is that some weird feel-good language in the curriculum?

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?

My DC has a 504 for focus/distraction issues associated with ADHD and is doing very well in the AAP center. I believe Mantua has their AAP Orientation on Monday. You may want to ask one of the teachers about how their AAP programs works with twice exceptional students. I have friends that have had 2e kids in the Mantua AAP Center say good things about the staff support of 504s and IEPs.

We received an AAP acceptance letter for our DS yesterday for Mantua. He has always been one of the younger kids in the class since he has a late birthday and we didn't hold him back. He's a bright kid who gets good grades without a lot of effort, but may have some maturity issues relative to his peers. He also has some trouble focusing - maybe also related to maturity. He has a 504 and receives special accommodations in 2nd grade - like small groups for tests. I've heard that there are kids in AAP who have IEPs and 504s. Does anyone have experience with a child like this who has been in the AAP program?