jsteele
Post 01/29/2012 16:41     Subject: Fake post?

Anonymous wrote:And now the "father" has posted a thread. I reported that one. Something is NKR here.


That thread was a quite obvious hoax. The poster has tended to behave like a pretty serious member of our community -- even starting a couple of threads in the Website Feedback forum -- so, this was out of character. But, hopefully she will enjoy her new spot on my shit list.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 13:33     Subject: Fake post?

Anonymous wrote:And now the "father" has posted a thread. I reported that one. Something is NKR here.


I don't see that thread - maybe that means Jeff deleted it. I can't believe this isn't even toying with Jeff's BS detector. I guess the poster said that she has posted in OT for a while, so maybe Jeff can cross-ref with her other posts. But I guess I"m of the type to think that there are some bored posters (or sickos) who are just wacky enough to actually spend some time developing a posting history to set up their trolling. See Jezebel for reference. There are so many of these instances with their commenters it's crazy.

I think it IS appropriate to raise a suspicion in the post itself as a warning for other posters - because if someone is going to lay out their painful experiences for the benefit of the OP, they deserve the benefit of other people sharing their doubts. I agree that once the red flag has been raised and noted, perhaps Jeff should come on and say "I'm not going to allow further debate on the veracity" but at least it should be duly noted that there is doubt, first.

I think the thing that is REALLY sketching me out about the poster of that thread is the unnecessary and slightly prurient (descriptions of the act) that just don't seem to ring true for me. Personally, I think 99 percent of genuine posters would say "my son then described how he touched" instead of getting into the more graphic descriptions she used. Also, the random "he is starting to act sexy to me also, btw, I walk around naked around him but don't anymore" seems like a triggering statement, hoping to fish out an argument. I am starting to think this is a troll rather than a perv, at least. i think he / she is looking for drama, not stories, but I could be wrong. Either way, it's sick and I don't care if Jeff has info we don't have about her posting history, I do not buy that thread for one second.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 12:05     Subject: Fake post?

And now the "father" has posted a thread. I reported that one. Something is NKR here.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2012 11:43     Subject: Fake post?

I'm sorry Jeff, but I truly believe you are being hoodwinked on this one. The post is a troll post- designed for reasons I can't even fathom.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2012 02:55     Subject: Re:Fake post?

I"m one of the posters on the original thread that worried (online/"out loud") that it might be fake, and I asked if there were any way for Jeff to check if the posts were at least coming from the same computer. He did so in response to the posts here, I believe -- I'm writing to say thanks for that. Whatever the circumstance (whether OP's story is tragically real or whether it's false), the situation presented *could* be real --- and that's the saddest part of all. I hope that OP finds the right help if she needs it and that others who've posted about similar experiences can find (or have found) as much peace as is possible given circumstances like those reported here.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2012 02:02     Subject: Fake post?

I'm so sick of people crying fake. The "you're lying"/"we're not getting the full story"/"fake" posts are really out of hand with posters trying to be the first to call shotgun. Like someone else mentioned on the original post, you don't get any prizes for screaming fake if you're right, but you do hurt the legitimate OP looking for help if you're wrong.

FWIW, I've been in that 'I don't know what to do, I'm so lost, please help me' situation with my DD before and came to this board for help. My mind was chaotic, and I didn't post every single detail at first because 1) I didn't want to out myself 2) I was in denial 3) I didn't know how relevant some details were until people started expressing certain points and 4) I wanted immediate answers, not talk to a therapist answers.

I believe her post to be true. I could very well see myself explaining the situation and letting the story evolve exactly as she did. The only difference is I would ignore the cries of "fake" so as not to be accused of thou dost protest too much!
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2012 00:19     Subject: Re:Fake post?

I bet what happened after 3PM is that she realized people saw through her, plus she got tired of the game and moved on, for now. Sorry. I am POSITIVE this is fake.
jsteele
Post 01/27/2012 10:49     Subject: Re:Fake post?

Anonymous wrote:The thing that concerns me, and why I gave the "cross examination" is that I think it's a freak or drama addict feeding on the emotions, stories, and reactions shared by others. I would bet a lot of money that the post is fake. While you want to give the benefit of the doubt to the OP, I want to err on the side of people sharing their stories and emotions with someone I really do believe is just fishing here. People get really emotionally invested in these stories. I think it's a sketchy post and I think with respect to these post, which seem aimed at eliciting "stories" or shared experiences that may include details, it's fair to be careful. I didn't buy the story from the beginning, but with every subsequent post, the OP upped the ante. And she's one of those posters who is like "oh, what should I do?" but people are saying "hey, consult a professional" and she's not taking the advice. She really doesn't seem to want advice, she just seems to want shared experiences which I think is super, super sketchy.

I say she, but I'm not at ALL sure this is a woman posting.


I understand what you are saying, but the evidence I see simply doesn't support your theory. First of all, nobody spends months developing a posting history on a range of topics in order to eventually troll for stories about child molestation. A troll would simply show up and post because nobody but me knows his posting history. Second, in your view, the OP didn't take the advice to contact a professional. A second interpretation is that the poster was at work and didn't want to leave work in the middle of the day. She didn't post again after 3 pm. How can you be sure that she didn't contact professionals after 3? DCUM is not a one hour drama on NBC where everything is tidily wrapped up by the end of the show. As I said, she posted once at night from one computer, and then between roughly noon and 3 from a second computer. If she didn't see the response to her original post until noon, how quickly did you expect her to contact a professional? Would a three hour delay be too much in your view? People keep saying that "I would do this or that" and are upset that the OP didn't react the way they would have. That's simplistic. People deal with things differently. Maybe you wouldn't post at night and then not check the thread again until noon the next day. Maybe a lot of people wouldn't. But, that's what the poster says she did and there is no reason to doubt that's the truth. Maybe you would have run from your office immediately after seeing the replies at noon. But, the poster didn't. She continued responding until 3. We don't know what happened after that.

Anonymous
Post 01/27/2012 10:46     Subject: Re:Fake post?

I am not so sure it was fake. More than likely you can explain the descrepancies because she changed details (from reality) in her initial post. If I were to post about a sensitive subject, I would change the details enough so that someone could not identify me. As the thread grew, these "white lies" were exposed.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2012 10:34     Subject: Re:Fake post?

The thing that concerns me, and why I gave the "cross examination" is that I think it's a freak or drama addict feeding on the emotions, stories, and reactions shared by others. I would bet a lot of money that the post is fake. While you want to give the benefit of the doubt to the OP, I want to err on the side of people sharing their stories and emotions with someone I really do believe is just fishing here. People get really emotionally invested in these stories. I think it's a sketchy post and I think with respect to these post, which seem aimed at eliciting "stories" or shared experiences that may include details, it's fair to be careful. I didn't buy the story from the beginning, but with every subsequent post, the OP upped the ante. And she's one of those posters who is like "oh, what should I do?" but people are saying "hey, consult a professional" and she's not taking the advice. She really doesn't seem to want advice, she just seems to want shared experiences which I think is super, super sketchy.

I say she, but I'm not at ALL sure this is a woman posting.
jsteele
Post 01/26/2012 23:30     Subject: Re:Fake post?

Anonymous wrote:I was the first person to notice something wrong about it. The mom is "quite dejected?" She's writing 5 posts per day that are paragraphs long? Throwing in snippets like "I walk around naked around him but don't anymore and he used to slap my ass" WTF? The story goes from her son to her entire family including a nephew? She called her son into the room but then said he was already there? Then had some kind of excuse for why her story changed? And nearly everyone tells her to consult a professional but she keeps coming back, adding more juicy details and saying "oh, oh, what should I do?" And this happens and she doesn't immediately talk to her kids? No way this post is real. NO WAY. Meantime, these poor people who really have been abused are replying, sharing their own stories, and probably feeding some sick fuck's fantasy or giving some asshole the drama they want. Please keep an eye on this thread and others like it. They are fishing and it's OBVIOUS.


Her posting pattern is pretty straight forward. She posted one post last night. Just before noon today she posted from a different computer saying that she had posted before going to bed and was only then able to get a break from work. She then posted 11 additional posts responding to other posters. The last of those posts was around 3 pm today. Your perception is that she is a mom facing a traumatic situation and should be rushing for emergency assistance. Her own perception appears to be that she is not quite sure what to believe and seeking other opinions. What I see coincides perfectly with a mom posting once from home, then 12 times from work, and then stayed off of DCUM after leaving work.
jsteele
Post 01/26/2012 23:04     Subject: Fake post?

I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the original poster. There is nothing suspicious that I can identify in the thread.

It is fairly common that posters -- for a variety of reasons -- do not provide every last detail of a situation when posting about it. For some reason, many of our users respond in such cases as if they are cross-examining a hostile witness. That's unfortunate when people are authentically seeking assistance.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2012 23:01     Subject: Re:Fake post?

I was the first person to notice something wrong about it. The mom is "quite dejected?" She's writing 5 posts per day that are paragraphs long? Throwing in snippets like "I walk around naked around him but don't anymore and he used to slap my ass" WTF? The story goes from her son to her entire family including a nephew? She called her son into the room but then said he was already there? Then had some kind of excuse for why her story changed? And nearly everyone tells her to consult a professional but she keeps coming back, adding more juicy details and saying "oh, oh, what should I do?" And this happens and she doesn't immediately talk to her kids? No way this post is real. NO WAY. Meantime, these poor people who really have been abused are replying, sharing their own stories, and probably feeding some sick fuck's fantasy or giving some asshole the drama they want. Please keep an eye on this thread and others like it. They are fishing and it's OBVIOUS.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2012 21:27     Subject: Fake post?

OP: thought about this all day and felt same. why not say cousin at the start? Especially given his age.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2012 21:01     Subject: Fake post?

In my gut, I think this a fake post:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/213114.page

It went from inappropriate touching by a son to include a cousin.