Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 19:03     Subject: Re:Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

I don't believe the porn industry will grind to a halt. I think preventing STD's or HIV is very important.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 18:52     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:I think it's charming that OP assumes American "conservatives" have some sort of philosophical consistency.

"Every fertilized egg is a person! Unless you're talking about IVF, in which case, throw as many persons in the trash as you like!".


So true! And why is it that they supposedly care so much about the poor aborted fetuses, but nothing about the children born into poverty. I never could understand such logical inconsistency. If you call yourself pro-life, why do you not support all life?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 18:26     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

takoma wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most conservatives don't think birth control is wrong.
Condoms for porn stars is not about birth control.

Other than that I find it hard to believe conservatives care. This isn't really a First Amendment issue. It barely adds to the general blanket of employee safety regulations we have. And it was done by a state, and states have more power to have detailed regulations.

Then why do they oppose teaching high school students about it.

Because they think discussions about sexuality are family matters and not government-run school matters. Most conservatives use contraception.

But according to their principles, shouldn't it be decided by each state whether it's up to family or school, rather than by the fed?


What? No. The Constitituon gives states more of certain kinds of power than the Feds. That doesn't mean all things should be done by the state. Many things should be done by neither government.
takoma
Post 01/18/2012 18:12     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most conservatives don't think birth control is wrong.
Condoms for porn stars is not about birth control.

Other than that I find it hard to believe conservatives care. This isn't really a First Amendment issue. It barely adds to the general blanket of employee safety regulations we have. And it was done by a state, and states have more power to have detailed regulations.

Then why do they oppose teaching high school students about it.

Because they think discussions about sexuality are family matters and not government-run school matters. Most conservatives use contraception.

But according to their principles, shouldn't it be decided by each state whether it's up to family or school, rather than by the fed?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 17:57     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most conservatives don't think birth control is wrong.
Condoms for porn stars is not about birth control.

Other than that I find it hard to believe conservatives care. This isn't really a First Amendment issue. It barely adds to the general blanket of employee safety regulations we have. And it was done by a state, and states have more power to have detailed regulations.


Then why do they oppose teaching high school students about it.


Because they think discussions about sexuality are family matters and not government-run school matters. Most conservatives use contraception.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 16:32     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:Most conservatives don't think birth control is wrong.
Condoms for porn stars is not about birth control.

Other than that I find it hard to believe conservatives care. This isn't really a First Amendment issue. It barely adds to the general blanket of employee safety regulations we have. And it was done by a state, and states have more power to have detailed regulations.


Then why do they oppose teaching high school students about it.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 16:32     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:I think it's charming that OP assumes American "conservatives" have some sort of philosophical consistency.

"Every fertilized egg is a person! Unless you're talking about IVF, in which case, throw as many persons in the trash as you like!"

Even calling it "conservative" is giving too much credit. More like a random collection or prejudices and cultural resentments.


My post is about the conundrum. Of course I don't think they have a shred of consistency.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 16:31     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:As a conservative I can assure you I don't even think about what happens in LaLa Land.


Then why do conservative groups have so much to say about the evil influence of Hollywood on American culture?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 16:30     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Anonymous wrote:OP, is everything you do and say in calculated anticipation of what some imagined conservative would think?


No.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 12:43     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

Most conservatives don't think birth control is wrong.
Condoms for porn stars is not about birth control.

Other than that I find it hard to believe conservatives care. This isn't really a First Amendment issue. It barely adds to the general blanket of employee safety regulations we have. And it was done by a state, and states have more power to have detailed regulations.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 11:50     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

As a conservative I can assure you I don't even think about what happens in LaLa Land.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 11:48     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

I think it's charming that OP assumes American "conservatives" have some sort of philosophical consistency.

"Every fertilized egg is a person! Unless you're talking about IVF, in which case, throw as many persons in the trash as you like!"

Even calling it "conservative" is giving too much credit. More like a random collection or prejudices and cultural resentments.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2012 09:34     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

OP, is everything you do and say in calculated anticipation of what some imagined conservative would think?
takoma
Post 01/18/2012 09:30     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

They probably think it's an example of liberal inanity, so eager to promote condoms that we use them to put a minor limit on something they think we should ban entirely.

Note that I said "we", since I agree with the move, even while feeling vulnerable to the criticism I described above.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2012 22:33     Subject: Well This is a Conservative Conundrum

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46031059/ns/health-sexual_health/#.TxY6yZi4L18

LOS ANGELES — Actors in adult movies filmed in America's pornography capital would be required to use condoms under an ordinance granted final approval Tuesday by the Los Angeles City Council.

So are conservatives outraged at this attack on free enterprise?

Or, are they pleased that Los Angeles has used its legal authority to curtail pornography?

OR, are they concerned that the government has just mandated the use of contraceptives?