Anonymous wrote:These methods are to soften them to get them ready for cooking, not to actually cook them.
You will need to go on and boil them for a while after either of these methods, depending on how old the beans are.
Exactly. I rarely leave beans to soak overnight; almost always use the boil/sit method. Then I simmer for a few hours with whatever spices.
You shouldn't add salt or vinegar until the beans are done cooking. Something about adding those stops them from cooking all the way.