Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 21:55     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do know they test the milk every single day to make sure antibiotics are not in the milk, right, PP?
On the "hormones" point - most stores now offer grocery-store brand milk that is "hormone free". Just buy the grocery store kind almost anywhere if you are worried about that.


You do know that those aren't the only reasons people buy organic, right? I personally don't like the idea of the non-organic milk cows eating animal byproducts. That's how BSE started, but it's still awesomely legal to feed a conventional cow a bunch of ground up chicken and cow parts in their feed as "protein filler."

Also, I've study chemistry long enough to be very wary of big ag. Good rule of thumb: if Monsanto is involved somewhere in the creation of a food product, don't eat that food. rBGH may not be detectable in milk, but what else might be present that's not getting tested? If big ag doesn't have to test, so they don't test. The seminal study that Monsanto uses to "prove" rBGH's safety is based on 28 cows, some rats, and the rats' reaction to cow IGF. To me, it's just not worth drinking large quantities of frankenliquid based on such a small N and such non-generalizable results.



Yes!!!! I completely agree. New poster here. I could go on and on about how Monsanto is screwing America. I have been meaning to do a post to find out how I complain about them and who should I direct my letter to or where can I sign a petition. If Monsanto has there way we won't have much choice. Farmer's markets selling food you can trust freeof GMOs will be a thing of the past. I know Obama has a lot on his plate, but I expected someone like him to stand up to the GMO giant, but instead he gives his nod of approval.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 21:47     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Anonymous wrote:If rBGH is that safe, why is it banned in every developed country except here?


I can't say for every country. The EU bans it because they do not think it is good for animal welfare due to increased mastitis. But countries using rBST can sell milk products in the EU. That tells you that they are not concerned about its public health effects. The secondary reason is that they already have milk quotas and are not interested in increasing milk production.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 20:04     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
If rBGH is that safe, why is it banned in every developed country except here?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:54     Subject: Re:speaking of how organic food is a scam
There's also usually a coupon for Horizon milk in the Sunday paper every three weeks. Combine that when it goes on sale at the store and you can get it for 2.00.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:50     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do know they test the milk every single day to make sure antibiotics are not in the milk, right, PP?
On the "hormones" point - most stores now offer grocery-store brand milk that is "hormone free". Just buy the grocery store kind almost anywhere if you are worried about that.


You do know that those aren't the only reasons people buy organic, right? I personally don't like the idea of the non-organic milk cows eating animal byproducts. That's how BSE started, but it's still awesomely legal to feed a conventional cow a bunch of ground up chicken and cow parts in their feed as "protein filler."

Also, I've study chemistry long enough to be very wary of big ag. Good rule of thumb: if Monsanto is involved somewhere in the creation of a food product, don't eat that food. rBGH may not be detectable in milk, but what else might be present that's not getting tested? If big ag doesn't have to test, so they don't test. The seminal study that Monsanto uses to "prove" rBGH's safety is based on 28 cows, some rats, and the rats' reaction to cow IGF. To me, it's just not worth drinking large quantities of frankenliquid based on such a small N and such non-generalizable results.


Well a quick googling can tell you that there are more studies than what you describe. Even the opponents of rBGH cite multiple studies.

Spreading disinformation is not helping your cause or supporting your claims of expertise. Nor do spin doctor terms like "frankenliquid" and "big ag".
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:45     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Anonymous wrote:You do know they test the milk every single day to make sure antibiotics are not in the milk, right, PP?
On the "hormones" point - most stores now offer grocery-store brand milk that is "hormone free". Just buy the grocery store kind almost anywhere if you are worried about that.


I find it hard to care about the growth hormone at all, since it does not travel into the milk anyway, even if the cows are treated. Why should I care at all?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:43     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Anonymous wrote:I don't buy organic milk for the organic part per se, but I do not want the added hormones and antibiotics. What other options are there?


There are non-organic brands of milk that are from cows not treated with growth hormone. That is a cheaper option. As for antibiotics, I'm not sure how much difference there is between organic and non-organic because regular cows have to be tested to ensure that there are no traces of antibiotic before they can return to milking.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:31     Subject: Re:speaking of how organic food is a scam
^^ "Studied" -- haha, can you tell I wasn't an English major?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:31     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Anonymous wrote:You do know they test the milk every single day to make sure antibiotics are not in the milk, right, PP?
On the "hormones" point - most stores now offer grocery-store brand milk that is "hormone free". Just buy the grocery store kind almost anywhere if you are worried about that.


You do know that those aren't the only reasons people buy organic, right? I personally don't like the idea of the non-organic milk cows eating animal byproducts. That's how BSE started, but it's still awesomely legal to feed a conventional cow a bunch of ground up chicken and cow parts in their feed as "protein filler."

Also, I've study chemistry long enough to be very wary of big ag. Good rule of thumb: if Monsanto is involved somewhere in the creation of a food product, don't eat that food. rBGH may not be detectable in milk, but what else might be present that's not getting tested? If big ag doesn't have to test, so they don't test. The seminal study that Monsanto uses to "prove" rBGH's safety is based on 28 cows, some rats, and the rats' reaction to cow IGF. To me, it's just not worth drinking large quantities of frankenliquid based on such a small N and such non-generalizable results.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 19:13     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
You do know they test the milk every single day to make sure antibiotics are not in the milk, right, PP?
On the "hormones" point - most stores now offer grocery-store brand milk that is "hormone free". Just buy the grocery store kind almost anywhere if you are worried about that.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 18:41     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
The price of organic milk varies a lot. I buy growth-hormone-free milk at WF or TJs. Can't afford organic.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 18:19     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Well, I don't know where you were shopping but trader joes has organic milk for $5.99 a gallon
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 18:15     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
I don't buy organic milk for the organic part per se, but I do not want the added hormones and antibiotics. What other options are there?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 17:59     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Well I loved how the organic apple juice contained arsenic. I paused for a moment tonight as I ate my organic honeycrisp apple and wondered how much arsenic it contained.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2011 16:57     Subject: speaking of how organic food is a scam
Was in the store last night. Half gallons of Horizon were $4.55. That's $9.10 per gallon.

Holy hell. I think I might just get myself a daisy cow.