Anonymous
Post 12/04/2011 19:41     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Obama said he was going to get them employed again. He failed. It is now on him.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2011 19:39     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give Mitch McConnell points for frankness. He said some time ago that the number one priority of the GOP congressional leadership was to thwart a second Obama term. And they've consistently executed that strategy, gambling that by their bleeding the economy, more of the blame will attach to Obama than to his challenger.


Luckily, for McConnell, all he had to do was step aside and let Obama do it for him. Millions unemployed or underemployed and 120,000 new jobs! What a laugh.


Gee, 3/4 of them lost their jobs before Obama got to office.


Obama promised a "Change you can believe in" and that implied full employmet or at least unemployment below 5%. You can't keep blaming George Bush four years down the road.
But those people who lost jobs under bush definitely can.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2011 17:42     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Social security is in such great shape that we should to continue to reduce funding via payroll taxes? It is just robbing Peter to pay Paul and it has to stop if social security is to continue.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2011 17:17     Subject: Re:Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

The problem here is that the payroll tax doesn’t go into general revenue, it supports Social Security. You can’t keep extending the payroll tax holiday and have a secure Social Security. Social Security is already running on a deficit. Even without the payroll tax cuts, revenues cannot keep up with the flood of baby boomers who are retiring.
Continuing the payroll tax cuts is simply undermining the financing of a program whose finances are already precarious.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2011 17:04     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give Mitch McConnell points for frankness. He said some time ago that the number one priority of the GOP congressional leadership was to thwart a second Obama term. And they've consistently executed that strategy, gambling that by their bleeding the economy, more of the blame will attach to Obama than to his challenger.


Luckily, for McConnell, all he had to do was step aside and let Obama do it for him. Millions unemployed or underemployed and 120,000 new jobs! What a laugh.


Gee, 3/4 of them lost their jobs before Obama got to office.


Obama promised a "Change you can believe in" and that implied full employmet or at least unemployment below 5%. You can't keep blaming George Bush four years down the road.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2011 20:01     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give Mitch McConnell points for frankness. He said some time ago that the number one priority of the GOP congressional leadership was to thwart a second Obama term. And they've consistently executed that strategy, gambling that by their bleeding the economy, more of the blame will attach to Obama than to his challenger.


Luckily, for McConnell, all he had to do was step aside and let Obama do it for him. Millions unemployed or underemployed and 120,000 new jobs! What a laugh.


Gee, 3/4 of them lost their jobs before Obama got to office.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2011 19:35     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:Give Mitch McConnell points for frankness. He said some time ago that the number one priority of the GOP congressional leadership was to thwart a second Obama term. And they've consistently executed that strategy, gambling that by their bleeding the economy, more of the blame will attach to Obama than to his challenger.


Luckily, for McConnell, all he had to do was step aside and let Obama do it for him. Millions unemployed or underemployed and 120,000 new jobs! What a laugh.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2011 13:03     Subject: Re:Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:It always goes down around this time, if you read more into the report the amount of people who gave up looking for a job was HUGE. NExt month with the holiday workers gone and those people that gave up trying again we'll see an uptick.

The only way out of this is to coax the private industry to hire by PERMANENT reduction of taxes


Actually it does not. Nice try at guessing though. See monthly data table with official gov't numbers below:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2011 13:00     Subject: Re:Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:


Now plot unemployment the day Bush got into office and the day he left it.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2011 12:59     Subject: Re:Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:It always goes down around this time, if you read more into the report the amount of people who gave up looking for a job was HUGE. NExt month with the holiday workers gone and those people that gave up trying again we'll see an uptick.

The only way out of this is to coax the private industry to hire by PERMANENT reduction of taxes


Idiot logic. You hire when there is demand for your product. Anyone can tell you that consumer demand is the constraint on business.

Only a fool would hire employees because they have extra cash lying around. That only works if you have a market to grow into.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2011 12:41     Subject: Re:Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Anonymous wrote:It always goes down around this time, if you read more into the report the amount of people who gave up looking for a job was HUGE. NExt month with the holiday workers gone and those people that gave up trying again we'll see an uptick.

The only way out of this is to coax the private industry to hire by PERMANENT reduction of taxes


Such bullshit. A lot of the private industry is doing fine and enjoying their profits earned by having fewer employees doing the work of more.

Lowering taxes on businesses while raising taxes on the employees will accomplish nothing but taking more power out of the hands of the individual and passing it to the corporations.

Anonymous
Post 12/02/2011 15:56     Subject: Re:Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

It always goes down around this time, if you read more into the report the amount of people who gave up looking for a job was HUGE. NExt month with the holiday workers gone and those people that gave up trying again we'll see an uptick.

The only way out of this is to coax the private industry to hire by PERMANENT reduction of taxes
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2011 13:01     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Give Mitch McConnell points for frankness. He said some time ago that the number one priority of the GOP congressional leadership was to thwart a second Obama term. And they've consistently executed that strategy, gambling that by their bleeding the economy, more of the blame will attach to Obama than to his challenger.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2011 12:54     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

You just don't get it, do you?

Employers are waiting to hire people until it becomes.... more.... expensive to do so.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2011 12:32     Subject: Unemployment is down slightly; now the GOP HAS to raise the payroll tax to sabotage the economy?

Given that their first and foremost goal is to drive Obama out of office, they are going to claim that improving unemployment figures mean the economy is on the mend, so that maintaining the payroll tax cuts and unemployment benefits is unncessary. Then when the economy tanks again next year as a result, they can blame it all on Obama's stewardship on the eve of the election.

Should I apologize for wasting DCUMers' time to state the obvious?