It would have been tragic if the president of PSU was still defending the actions of his administrators. Since the BOT stepped in and fired them, now I think PSU and PSU football is handling itself as best as it can. Still, I think punishment must be severe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In discussions with friends this weekend, people speculated that pay-offs had been going on for years to the victims and their families and for whatever reason, they all stopped at some point, which is what led to the grand jury investigation and this going public. Does anyone else think this? Also, do you think it is coincidental that this story came to light just after JoePa reached the goal of "most winning coach in NCAA history?"

Truly, this story gets sicker by the day. I found the football game at PSU yesterday to be absolutely nauseating.

Now that's just ridiculous. So now you're holding the entire PSU community culpable? The team, the students, the professors, the administrators who are not remotely connected to this tragedy? Yes, it's unspeakable, yes, it's horrible... but guess what? Life goes on. They've caught the monster. The healing has to start somewhere.

I'm holding the entire PSU community culpabale for drinking so much koolade about the worthiness of this "fine institution" that they were willing to construct a situation that a football coach held the legitimate administrators of the school hostage, in effect, in so many ways, for years. And the "healing" that was on display was further evidence of the denial that they are all in.

So a 19 year old female art history major who doesn't drink and who would rather sit in her dorm room and read Jane Austen than go to a football game, and is at Penn State b/c she is a PA resident and a legacy, is a guilty of this tragedy as an administrator in the athletic department? Because this is where your logic is going when you say the "entire PSU community."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In discussions with friends this weekend, people speculated that pay-offs had been going on for years to the victims and their families and for whatever reason, they all stopped at some point, which is what led to the grand jury investigation and this going public. Does anyone else think this? Also, do you think it is coincidental that this story came to light just after JoePa reached the goal of "most winning coach in NCAA history?"

Truly, this story gets sicker by the day. I found the football game at PSU yesterday to be absolutely nauseating.

Now that's just ridiculous. So now you're holding the entire PSU community culpable? The team, the students, the professors, the administrators who are not remotely connected to this tragedy? Yes, it's unspeakable, yes, it's horrible... but guess what? Life goes on. They've caught the monster. The healing has to start somewhere.

I'm holding the entire PSU community culpabale for drinking so much koolade about the worthiness of this "fine institution" that they were willing to construct a situation that a football coach held the legitimate administrators of the school hostage, in effect, in so many ways, for years. And the "healing" that was on display was further evidence of the denial that they are all in.

Anonymous wrote:In discussions with friends this weekend, people speculated that pay-offs had been going on for years to the victims and their families and for whatever reason, they all stopped at some point, which is what led to the grand jury investigation and this going public. Does anyone else think this? Also, do you think it is coincidental that this story came to light just after JoePa reached the goal of "most winning coach in NCAA history?"

Truly, this story gets sicker by the day. I found the football game at PSU yesterday to be absolutely nauseating.

Now that's just ridiculous. So now you're holding the entire PSU community culpable? The team, the students, the professors, the administrators who are not remotely connected to this tragedy? Yes, it's unspeakable, yes, it's horrible... but guess what? Life goes on. They've caught the monster. The healing has to start somewhere.

Anonymous wrote:So weeks before the trial (after he was charged), his wife attempted to contact one of the victims. All that shows it that she knew BEFORE the trial started, not at the time the crimes were committed.

There hasn't been a trial, just a grand jury indictment.

I think the university is now trying to get out in front of the inevitable lawsuits that will follow. This will cost them MILLIONS

In discussions with friends this weekend, people speculated that pay-offs had been going on for years to the victims and their families and for whatever reason, they all stopped at some point, which is what led to the grand jury investigation and this going public. Does anyone else think this? Also, do you think it is coincidental that this story came to light just after JoePa reached the goal of "most winning coach in NCAA history?"

Truly, this story gets sicker by the day. I found the football game at PSU yesterday to be absolutely nauseating.

So weeks before the trial (after he was charged), his wife attempted to contact one of the victims. All that shows it that she knew BEFORE the trial started, not at the time the crimes were committed.

Maybe her H lied to her and convinced her he was being investigated for no good reason so she called the victim thinking of convincing him to come to his senses?

PP here ^^ - of course, this says nothing about the content of her message. It's just speculation that she called the victim to pressure him not to talk. But the timing, just weeks before he testified, is interesting.

NP here. I had not heard this before but found this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060914/Jerry-Sandusky-Penn-State-sex-abuse-Why-did-Jerry-wife-abuse-victim-weeks-testimony.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

"But Dorothy 'Dottie' Gross Sandusky does make an appearance in the 23-page Grand Jury indictment which graphically details the charges against the 67-year-old former Penn State coach.

Mrs Sandusky, 68, attempted to call one of the victims in the weeks leading up to his testimony, despite the fact the now 26-year-old had cut off all contact with Sandusky two years prior.

She left a message on Victim 7's phone saying the matter was 'very important' but the man, who told the Grand Jury that as a ten-year-old in 1994, Sandusky hugged and inappropriately touched him, did not return the call."

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Anonymous wrote:And you are her confidant? Otherwise, how do you purport to know what she knew, when she knew it and what she did with that information?

She called the victim to tell him to keep quiet. Is that not enough. SHe told the victim to not talk.

Source please. I have not heard this reported anywhere.

Anonymous wrote:And you are her confidant? Otherwise, how do you purport to know what she knew, when she knew it and what she did with that information?

She called the victim to tell him to keep quiet. Is that not enough. SHe told the victim to not talk.

And you are her confidant? Otherwise, how do you purport to know what she knew, when she knew it and what she did with that information?

she was a willing participant as she did nothing to stop it