Would second those who suggest looking at Miele. Viking makes good REAL commercial ovens and cooktops, but their home models (even if they are touted as commercial) just don't seem to be as high quality.

I know I'm a sample size of one, but we've had nothing but trouble with our Wolf stove and it costs a fortune to get it repaired. We've had to get the oven temp gauge recalibrated twice because it's way too hot and burns everything. Also, one by one the electric pilot lights for each of the stovetop burners broke.

Anonymous wrote:Op here, thanks PP's. I have a kitchen aid convection range now that is gas and electric (the broil is electric) what is dual fuel? Gas cook top and electric oven? I'd like to stick with gas. Does this change your thoughts?

16:43 here. Our Wolf cooktop is gas but we opted for an electric oven because it is more consistent.

FWIW we also have a Wolf warming drawer and I would defintely add that to your list if you like to entertain.

Miele is excellent. German brand. Lasts for years without repairs.

Love my Wolf.

We have a Gaggenau cooktop and Miele oven. We love them and in five years have never had a single problem with either.

I have a Wolf and a Viking. I've had SO many problems with our Viking appliances in the first 4 years. They are overpriced POS, in my opinion. Love the Wolf.

Gas Electrolux, I use the proof setting all the time during the winter.

Anonymous wrote:Op here, thanks PP's. I have a kitchen aid convection range now that is gas and electric (the broil is electric) what is dual fuel? Gas cook top and electric oven? I'd like to stick with gas. Does this change your thoughts?

Duel fuel is gas cooktop, electric oven. Electric ovens are able to maintain a much more consistent temperature than gas and are generally preferred over gas ovens (while gas cooktops are generally considered better than electric). When you look at getting a cooktop and oven separately, many of the brands don't even sell gas ovens. I'm pretty sure all the high-end brands have ranges that are all gas, all electric and dual fuel

Stick with gas and look at Electrolux. Definitely that or Wolf.

You might want to check out Blue Star or Capital appliances.

Op here, thanks PP's. I have a kitchen aid convection range now that is gas and electric (the broil is electric) what is dual fuel? Gas cook top and electric oven? I'd like to stick with gas. Does this change your thoughts?

I know several people who hate their Vikings- and no one who loves theirs. The main complaints about the Vikings were (1) the simmer doesn't get low enough to simmer and (2) the ovens are uneven and generally don't work well. I know two people I quizzed about their Wolfs 1 loves it 1 hates it and says they are constantly having to have it repaired. Based on my informal surveys of friends and the Consumer Reports ratings, we chose a 48" Thermador duel fuel and love it. CR gave Thermador higher ratings than any of the higher end ranges.

we have a wolf cooktop and wolf oven (separate units) and been happy with them. We liked the wolf more than the viking - it seemed more substantial. As for performance and BTUs I don't think they are that different although I know several people who had to have repairs on viking appliances.

Finally getting my dream kitchen, I love to cook. Anyone out there with an opinion one way or another on the 36" model? I'd love the 48" but don't have enough room.