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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

She is saying the growth percentile is in the teens.

Yes this. I'm just surprised that his growth in percentage was so small and not too happy about going from the 85th percentile to the 65th. Yikes.

What grade? Something similar happened to one of my kids in early elementary. She started out ahead in math but then didn't really learn anything new for a couple years so her scores slipped. (She also, even now that she is regularly learning new content, still bounces up and down 10-15ish percentiles regularly. She's just not very consistent in her test-taking.)

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

She is saying the growth percentile is in the teens.

Yes this. I'm just surprised that his growth in percentage was so small and not too happy about going from the 85th percentile to the 65th. Yikes.

dp but posted on 11:02.

Oooooh the growth percentile is in the teens?

I thought you meant their score improved by about ten or twenty points.

It doesn't sound like your child did well in the MAP test compared to how they did previously, and I'd confirm that they did an honest effort in taking the test and if they did try, make sure they did okay in class and understood what was being taught.

When one of our kids were younger, I think they didn't take the MAP test seriously and would just try to click through as fast as they can to get it over with and we had to emphasize that we expected them to do well on it.

This is a good point.

Mcps doesn’t seem to care about the map growth once they’re at the bench mark grade levels.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

She is saying the growth percentile is in the teens.

Yes this. I'm just surprised that his growth in percentage was so small and not too happy about going from the 85th percentile to the 65th. Yikes.

dp but posted on 11:02.

Oooooh the growth percentile is in the teens?

I thought you meant their score improved by about ten or twenty points.

It doesn't sound like your child did well in the MAP test compared to how they did previously, and I'd confirm that they did an honest effort in taking the test and if they did try, make sure they did okay in class and understood what was being taught.

When one of our kids were younger, I think they didn't take the MAP test seriously and would just try to click through as fast as they can to get it over with and we had to emphasize that we expected them to do well on it.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

She is saying the growth percentile is in the teens.

Yes this. I'm just surprised that his growth in percentage was so small and not too happy about going from the 85th percentile to the 65th. Yikes.

The teacher should also be able to tell you how much time your child took to complete each test. When my child’s scores went down a lot it turned out she was rushing to just finish the test.

I haven't really looked at the reports that are available to parents.

But two things is that the MAP is supposed to have a projected growth for every test administration for students. ie if a student's fall score is this, then their projected score in Spring is this. Is that viewable on the report anywhere and you can see if your child met the projected growth?

Then I think there are benchmarks for MAP but it's been a long time since I've looked at it and can't remember the details. I don't think it's exactly this document:

https://www.nwea.org/resource-center/fact-sheet/87992/MAP-Growth-2025-norms-quick-reference_NWEA_onesheet.pdf/


But the document linked above give some guidance or an idea.

Or actually I just found an old copy of what I was talking about. For example back the benchmarks back then was:
Grade 1 Math
Fall 169
Winter 186
Spring 179

Grade 6 Math
Fall 228
Winter 230
Spring 233

And doing further searches, this is kind of similar with different benchmark scores:
https://schooltest.org/nwea-map-scores-by-grade-level-2025-2026-new

It was linked on here:
https://www.facebook.com/nwea.map.test.scores.by.grade.level.chart/

where the first comment questioned those benchmark numbers.

But I would compare your child's score to see where it falls within range of those documents.

And honestly because I tend to keep things simple, the main thing I really look at when it comes to MAP scores is the percentiles to see where my kids are in relation to their peers, I do also make sure that their scores are more or less on an upward trend. Four or five points down from the previous administration every once in a while isn't a big deal to me. But I generally don't care about the benchmark scores I mentioned above.

I would be a little bit concerned if my kid's percentile dropped twenty percent and especially if it's 65 percent, although previous poster and one of the links above states that's about grade level. There are several factors that would need to be looked at. First of all what grade level and subject are we talking about. Then is your child in a class that on grade level for that subject. And did your child understand the things being taught in the class throughout the year? And I HATE it when posters say this on DCUM but is it possible that your child just had an off day the day they took the test?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

She is saying the growth percentile is in the teens.

I guess that makes more sense but the reports I get from MCPS don’t include a growth percentile, just a number of points of RIT growth and a percentile that corresponds to the score, not to the growth.

Our RIT growth has always been between 10 and 17, and we've never seen a drop in percentile like that. I'd be more concerned about that than the RIT growth number.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

She is saying the growth percentile is in the teens.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

If other kids passed him in their scores then I can see a small gain leading to a large drop in the percentile.

65th percentile means that he is on grade level but not much more. It doesn't seem like he learned much during the year. I would be trying to talk to the teacher and find out what happened in the classroom. What were their grades like?

Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

I’ve never seen growth in the teens that drops a kid’s percentile. Is this Math or ELA? I would be concerned about a drop from 85th percentile to 65th, but that doesn’t make sense if the actual score is going up by double digits. Are you looking at Fall to Spring? Previous spring to current spring? Something is off

The more important question is whether the RIT growth is on track for their starting score and grade. NWEA’s materials describe growth projection as the expected fall-to-spring gain for similar students, and the report notes that nationally about 40% to 60% of students meet that projection.

Anonymous wrote:My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.

Are those up? Is that by school?

I’m not super knowledgeable but you might want to share your child’s grade for context.

My kid's growth was in the teens. Also, he went from 85 percentile to 65 percentile. Should I be concerned.