Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

The thing is, this misogyny is not “extreme”. It is everywhere. It is not visible all of the time, but it is absolutely always there. That “fine” group of young kids in your neighborhood probably also contains a future rapist and his friends that don’t call him out, it may have a guy who refuses to hire or promote women because he doesn’t like to listen to them talk at work, or probably a guy who treats his wife like a servant… but you’ll never hear them say anything as overt as Tate because that’s not acceptable in their circles, but they still hate women.
Misogyny is the greatest plague on humanity.

Misogny is definitely a problem, but the coverage of the Tate brothers exists because of the extreme nature of their actions and messages.

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

Did you really just erect a vague whataboutism in response to a well-researched, comprehensive investigative article that relies on original source material?

I mean, were you born stupid? Or were you just brainwashed along the way?

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

What strange whataboutism is this?

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

Lol, totally see the connection between my son and his friends riding bikes to get ice cream and this Tate story.

[Not.]

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

Okay. That may be.

And, it’s also true that the U.S. has a majority of political leaders actively protecting and NOT prosecuting and NOT holding men accountable for wrong doing- sexual or otherwise.

That’s a huge problem and sends a horrible message to young men in society that has horrendous and terrifying implications for women in society.

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

The thing is, this misogyny is not “extreme”. It is everywhere. It is not visible all of the time, but it is absolutely always there. That “fine” group of young kids in your neighborhood probably also contains a future rapist and his friends that don’t call him out, it may have a guy who refuses to hire or promote women because he doesn’t like to listen to them talk at work, or probably a guy who treats his wife like a servant… but you’ll never hear them say anything as overt as Tate because that’s not acceptable in their circles, but they still hate women.
Misogyny is the greatest plague on humanity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

WTF does this have to do with anything?

NP. OP said she is worried about future relationships and the PP responded that things seem fine with the young people he or she knows. (My personal take is that we don’t know the details of what neighborhood young people actually think and do.)

Anonymous wrote:Men have to wake up and realize red pill bs is more harmful to them than it is to women.

Don’t hold your breath.

That's what's so insane, this Red Pill stuff makes them unable to find or stay in relationships. It's absolutely harming men and boys.

But lonely angry men are easier to manipulate and sell stuff to.

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

WTF does this have to do with anything?

Men have to wake up and realize red pill bs is more harmful to them than it is to women.

Don’t hold your breath.

Anonymous wrote:The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

Did you read the article? New Yorker fact checkers don’t play around. The allegations are heavily documented by the Tates’ own disgusting text messages.

The New Yorker is clickbait for left wing people, focusing on the extremes while ignoring the extremes on the other end. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. The disconnection between publications like the New Yorker and NYT and the real world is astonishing. I'm out and about every day, see the kids and teens and college kids in my neighborhood all the time, and things are more fine than not.

The article made me feel sick and so, so sad. It’s not just the utter depravity of the Tates, but that our government is propping up these psychopaths. They’re all in it together— appealing to the basest instincts of humans (well, men), and making bank off these utter rubes. Complete travesty all around.

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I found this to be so bleak and depressing. Reading it left me feeling hopeless about the possibility of decent and genuine relations between men and women. And frightened by the idea that men that I work with and know socially share any part of the worldview that Tate has sold and that has been embraced by powerful political figures in the US. What can be done to combat this toxic outlook, hold these men accountable for the harm they have perpetrated, and create something better for the young people who think that this guy’s messages are worth following (and paying for)??