Anonymous
06/13/2026 19:56
Subject: Re:Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have three. I think it is dumb to live just with one passport, but most of Americans never have been through hardship caused by the government, so they would not understand the need to be ready to leave at any time.
I’d love another passport. My relatives have been in this country since before 1850 though, so what options do I have? A quick google search says Poland requires emigration after 1920, Germany 1870, only applies one generation out for England and two generations for Ireland.
To say I’m dumb because I don’t have a simple link to another country seems a bit short sighted.
The position of the ppp is exactly the mentality that I’m hearing from multi-passport holders.
Slo, for Poland. You generally need an ancestor who emigrated after 1950 if you’re trying to obtain citizenship by ancestry. You can still go through the naturalization process if you want it that badly.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 19:06
Subject: Re:Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:I have three. I think it is dumb to live just with one passport, but most of Americans never have been through hardship caused by the government, so they would not understand the need to be ready to leave at any time.
I’d love another passport. My relatives have been in this country since before 1850 though, so what options do I have? A quick google search says Poland requires emigration after 1920, Germany 1870, only applies one generation out for England and two generations for Ireland.
To say I’m dumb because I don’t have an simple link to another country seems a bit short sighted.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 18:47
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In my circles, I work with affluent, educated immigrants. This crowd sometimes does. I also know people from the former Soviet Union who have European passports.
I do genealogy (European immigrant ancestors). It is becoming very trendy for people to try and get EU passports if they can qualify. The main reason is to give options on where to vacation for long periods of time and retirement. Also, for the younger set, the idea of working in Europe is just fun.
I have also done genealogy for over 30 years. I wanted to work abroad in my STEM
field when I was younger, but in some ways it was much harder to do so. What I find interesting is that this younger generation definitely exploits their heritage to try to get Euro passports but lacks much connection to that heritage except maybe a last name or a family recipe. I guess it is sorta mutual becauee overseas countries like the influx of money.
PP. I've read that Americans are the nationality most interested in genealogy because of many of us being immigrants.
I'm aware that a lot of our ancestors were happy to leave what was then grinding poverty in backwater places with mainly subsistence farming.
Now, the places they left are charming and the Internet has made it possible to have a good life in those places. It makes sense to leverage a legal right to go back.
My boss married an Italian-American. His parents immigrated in the 1960s. Now he and their children have Italian citizenship. I think that makes it easier for them to own property there. And the kids may consider working in Europe. They have family still in Italy and usually visit 1x per year.
Maybe people will finally understand American is not an ethnicity then.
Also, it is selective. For example, Poland will not grant you citizenship based on heritage if your ancestor be ame a us citizen between 1920 and 1950. But other EU countries DGAF.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 14:39
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In my circles, I work with affluent, educated immigrants. This crowd sometimes does. I also know people from the former Soviet Union who have European passports.
I do genealogy (European immigrant ancestors). It is becoming very trendy for people to try and get EU passports if they can qualify. The main reason is to give options on where to vacation for long periods of time and retirement. Also, for the younger set, the idea of working in Europe is just fun.
I have also done genealogy for over 30 years. I wanted to work abroad in my STEM
field when I was younger, but in some ways it was much harder to do so. What I find interesting is that this younger generation definitely exploits their heritage to try to get Euro passports but lacks much connection to that heritage except maybe a last name or a family recipe. I guess it is sorta mutual becauee overseas countries like the influx of money.
PP. I've read that Americans are the nationality most interested in genealogy because of many of us being immigrants.
I'm aware that a lot of our ancestors were happy to leave what was then grinding poverty in backwater places with mainly subsistence farming.
Now, the places they left are charming and the Internet has made it possible to have a good life in those places. It makes sense to leverage a legal right to go back.
My boss married an Italian-American. His parents immigrated in the 1960s. Now he and their children have Italian citizenship. I think that makes it easier for them to own property there. And the kids may consider working in Europe. They have family still in Italy and usually visit 1x per year.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 14:30
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:I have 3. I can save on things like rail passes, and I'm not good at timing visas so it's easier
Beyond tourist discounts, do feel any loyalty to your countries? Or are you more of a citizen of the world.
If you were detained by a fourth countey while traveling, which of your countries would you/your family appeal to for help?
Anonymous
06/13/2026 14:30
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
2. Honestly my non US one was such a headache I would have absolutely zero desire to get another one.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 14:27
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:In my circles, I work with affluent, educated immigrants. This crowd sometimes does. I also know people from the former Soviet Union who have European passports.
I do genealogy (European immigrant ancestors). It is becoming very trendy for people to try and get EU passports if they can qualify. The main reason is to give options on where to vacation for long periods of time and retirement. Also, for the younger set, the idea of working in Europe is just fun.
I have also done genealogy for over 30 years. I wanted to work abroad in my STEM
field when I was younger, but in some ways it was much harder to do so. What I find interesting is that this younger generation definitely exploits their heritage to try to get Euro passports but lacks much connection to that heritage except maybe a last name or a family recipe. I guess it is sorta mutual becauee overseas countries like the influx of money.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 14:20
Subject: Re:Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have three. I think it is dumb to live just with one passport, but most of Americans never have been through hardship caused by the government, so they would not understand the need to be ready to leave at any time.
I don’t qualify for another passport. I am not wealthy, and I do not have relatively recent immigrants connecting me back. Give me a break.
Having multiple passports seems to also come with a certain amount of arrogance, elitism, and disdain for people who cannot afford to pick up and move on a whim.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 14:12
Subject: Re:Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:I have three. I think it is dumb to live just with one passport, but most of Americans never have been through hardship caused by the government, so they would not understand the need to be ready to leave at any time.
I don’t qualify for another passport. I am not wealthy, and I do not have relatively recent immigrants connecting me back. Give me a break.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 13:54
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
I have 3. I can save on things like rail passes, and I'm not good at timing visas so it's easier
Anonymous
06/13/2026 13:52
Subject: Re:Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous wrote:I have three. I think it is dumb to live just with one passport, but most of Americans never have been through hardship caused by the government, so they would not understand the need to be ready to leave at any time.
If America's not safe for native-born white monolingual Americans, there's probably nowhere to go.
If US citizens wanted to go to Canada for "a while", it's legal for up to 6 months. That's the easiest contiguous place to go.
If there's a natural disaster so bad that you have to leave the US, then you'd need resources more important than a passport. Like transportation access (plane, boat).
I really don't see that it makes sense, even for a political emergency. It's a huge country. There's lots of places to go off the grid.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 13:44
Subject: Re:Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
I have three. I think it is dumb to live just with one passport, but most of Americans never have been through hardship caused by the government, so they would not understand the need to be ready to leave at any time.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 13:11
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
In my circles, I work with affluent, educated immigrants. This crowd sometimes does. I also know people from the former Soviet Union who have European passports.
I do genealogy (European immigrant ancestors). It is becoming very trendy for people to try and get EU passports if they can qualify. The main reason is to give options on where to vacation for long periods of time and retirement. Also, for the younger set, the idea of working in Europe is just fun.
I do genealogy (European immigrant ancestors). It is becoming very trendy for people to try and get EU passports if they can qualify. The main reason is to give options on where to vacation for long periods of time and retirement. Also, for the younger set, the idea of working in Europe is just fun.
Anonymous
06/13/2026 13:03
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
Anonymous
06/13/2026 13:01
Subject: Citizens of Convenience: How many passports do you hold?
I’m learning more people I know / meet lately have three or more passports. I can understand maybe two (eg, your parents are from different countries). These people are not the uber rich but DCUM middle class. It’s like passports are the new collectible item. One new mom friend is attempting to get a fourth but has lived here for 20 years.
I have only one. No plans to get another unless I were to move abroad. Otherwise, I don’t think it makes sense.
I have only one. No plans to get another unless I were to move abroad. Otherwise, I don’t think it makes sense.