Anonymous wrote:I do what the guy did all the time. Busses aren’t there at 1 pm. He wasn’t some rebel, just using common sense.

Busses are kisses. Buses are vehicles.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s called being a man OP. and yes, women could do with a little more of it.

I’m a woman and I’ve done what that guy did. Agree with pp, it’s common sense.

Do you also park in red curb fire lanes because you're just going to be a minute?

Anonymous wrote:I think in this guy's case, what he did was totally fine specifically because as you note, it didn't hurt anyone. He also took I minor risk in doing it because he might have been yelled at by someone at the school, but he was ok with that risk. So it's ok. What you did was also ok (you didn't want to risk being yelled at, which is reasonable) but you need to be ok with your choice. Next time, you know you have the other option. Either one is fine as long as you are ok with the potential consequences.

What I thought you were going to ask about is when people break rules for their own convenience and it DOES impact other people. Like parents parking in the bus lane during school drop off, and getting out of their car to run inside "real quick." Stuff like that is never ok and it pisses me off when rules like that aren't enforced because it just encourages entitled pricks to keep inconveniencing everyone else. Please don't be this person.

Except the lane is kept clear for when it might impact other people, like the need for an ambulance or a bus returning from a field trip. So obnoxious when people think that they are more important than everyone else… see people squatting in airplane seats, people pushing their “fur baby” around in a cart at the grocery store, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if everyone decided that things like designated parking areas and security measures were mere suggestions that one can feel free to dismiss if one is feeling lazy or otherwise too inconvenienced.

There are plenty of instances where breaking the rules may be warranted and justifiable, but breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is antisocial and entitled behavior.

But OP's example was not someone breaking rules for the hell of it. It sounds like a reasonable decision to violate the parking rule. FWIW parents do this at our school all the time if it's midday and especially if the weather is bad. I didn't originally but now I do because I've been there long enough to know there truly are no negative consequences. Even if everyone does it, which I think pretty much everyone does.

Holding the door open could be more problematic but maybe this dad recognized OP as a fellow parent. The security rules exist to keep random people out if the school, not parents of school kids. If I was in the same situation and the person behind me was a parent I'd seem around the school before, I would definitely hold the door for them. Our school also has you sign in at the front desk anyway so holding the door doesn't get you all the way through security.

I was speaking more generally. The overall attitude that rules don't apply if you genuinely believe you aren't inconveniencing others by breaking them is a crappy one. I wouldn't teach my children to live their lives that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if everyone decided that things like designated parking areas and security measures were mere suggestions that one can feel free to dismiss if one is feeling lazy or otherwise too inconvenienced.

There are plenty of instances where breaking the rules may be warranted and justifiable, but breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is antisocial and entitled behavior.

Like you have never exceeded the speed limit.

Not the point. That's an instance where breaking the rules is actually socially accepted, and that's the case in many other situations. There are plenty of gray areas here, but erring on the side of safety and convention is a good idea for the situations where you aren't quite sure.

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if everyone decided that things like designated parking areas and security measures were mere suggestions that one can feel free to dismiss if one is feeling lazy or otherwise too inconvenienced.

There are plenty of instances where breaking the rules may be warranted and justifiable, but breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is antisocial and entitled behavior.

But OP's example was not someone breaking rules for the hell of it. It sounds like a reasonable decision to violate the parking rule. FWIW parents do this at our school all the time if it's midday and especially if the weather is bad. I didn't originally but now I do because I've been there long enough to know there truly are no negative consequences. Even if everyone does it, which I think pretty much everyone does.

Holding the door open could be more problematic but maybe this dad recognized OP as a fellow parent. The security rules exist to keep random people out if the school, not parents of school kids. If I was in the same situation and the person behind me was a parent I'd seem around the school before, I would definitely hold the door for them. Our school also has you sign in at the front desk anyway so holding the door doesn't get you all the way through security.

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if everyone decided that things like designated parking areas and security measures were mere suggestions that one can feel free to dismiss if one is feeling lazy or otherwise too inconvenienced.

There are plenty of instances where breaking the rules may be warranted and justifiable, but breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is antisocial and entitled behavior.

Same team.

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if everyone decided that things like designated parking areas and security measures were mere suggestions that one can feel free to dismiss if one is feeling lazy or otherwise too inconvenienced.

There are plenty of instances where breaking the rules may be warranted and justifiable, but breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is antisocial and entitled behavior.

Like you have never exceeded the speed limit.

Anonymous wrote:It’s called being a man OP. and yes, women could do with a little more of it.

I’m a woman and I’ve done what that guy did. Agree with pp, it’s common sense.

Imagine if everyone decided that things like designated parking areas and security measures were mere suggestions that one can feel free to dismiss if one is feeling lazy or otherwise too inconvenienced.

There are plenty of instances where breaking the rules may be warranted and justifiable, but breaking rules for the sake of breaking rules is antisocial and entitled behavior.

It’s called being a man OP. and yes, women could do with a little more of it.

I do what the guy did all the time. Busses aren’t there at 1 pm. He wasn’t some rebel, just using common sense.

Anonymous wrote:I think in this guy's case, what he did was totally fine specifically because as you note, it didn't hurt anyone. He also took I minor risk in doing it because he might have been yelled at by someone at the school, but he was ok with that risk. So it's ok. What you did was also ok (you didn't want to risk being yelled at, which is reasonable) but you need to be ok with your choice. Next time, you know you have the other option. Either one is fine as long as you are ok with the potential consequences.

What I thought you were going to ask about is when people break rules for their own convenience and it DOES impact other people. Like parents parking in the bus lane during school drop off, and getting out of their car to run inside "real quick." Stuff like that is never ok and it pisses me off when rules like that aren't enforced because it just encourages entitled pricks to keep inconveniencing everyone else. Please don't be this person.

Yes, of course, I should have clarified that this is what I meant: the harmless little things that don’t affect other people or slow other people down, the “no harm, no foul” little rule bends. Maybe I am entering my “I don’t care if I get chastised for something that’s not really wrong” era…

I think in this guy's case, what he did was totally fine specifically because as you note, it didn't hurt anyone. He also took I minor risk in doing it because he might have been yelled at by someone at the school, but he was ok with that risk. So it's ok. What you did was also ok (you didn't want to risk being yelled at, which is reasonable) but you need to be ok with your choice. Next time, you know you have the other option. Either one is fine as long as you are ok with the potential consequences.

What I thought you were going to ask about is when people break rules for their own convenience and it DOES impact other people. Like parents parking in the bus lane during school drop off, and getting out of their car to run inside "real quick." Stuff like that is never ok and it pisses me off when rules like that aren't enforced because it just encourages entitled pricks to keep inconveniencing everyone else. Please don't be this person.

Yesterday, I had to pick up my daughter’s medication from school. I had to park in a side lot at a designated visitor’s space, which was a little walk from the main door, and in the hot sunshine. What I *wanted* to do, knowing I would be there less than five minutes, was park right in front of the school, in the bus lane, in a shady spot. It was 1 p.m., so no chance of buses being there at that time.

As I was walking up, I saw a dad do exactly that; he reached the school door just ahead of me. He tried to hold the door open for me, but I know procedure is for me to be buzzed in separately. Once in and cleared, I met up with him in the health room. We were there to do the exact same thing. Then, upon exiting, he breezed to his shaded car and sped off, and I hoofed it a bit to my hot car.

Did he impede buses or emergency vehicles? No. He did his errand quickly and was out of there. He did what I wanted to do, but was too chicken to do. He didn’t get caught, he didn’t get in trouble. He was treated as politely as I was.

Question: Is being a rule follower for cowards and dorks? Should I just use that guy as my Spirit Guide, and do what I want, within reason? Like no assaulting annoying people or parking in handicap parking spots, but…should I just stop being such a follower?