Anonymous wrote:Since we’re discussing integrated math, I thought it worth noting that parents with experience with that curriculum in a public school system, rather than an opt-in charter, posting earlier today on the college page, absolutely hate it:

We’re in a moderately competitive public school in southern California, and the math instruction has been very very frustrating. The integrated math system puts you on a super accelerated path or just the regular path. There's no in between, which would be perfect for our kids. Our oldest survived and is headed to HYP. We've learned to navigate the horrible curriculum and crossing fingers it works out for our younger DCs. But I am deeply disappointed that my oldest is turned off by math, even if he's pursuing a major that has nothing to do with math.

Bay Area poster here, same here. Both kids are strong at math, though only one is pursuing STEM. We also found IM really ridiculous. I also can see how kids graduate with no math skills. In DD’s IM3 class the majority of the grade was homework and quizzes. Quizzes were group quizzes. The teacher made a point of making sure a math smart kid was in each group. The other kids would just let the smart kid do all the problems. Homework was never checked, just stamped that you had it. Tests were made up of the exact same questions on the group quizzes, retakes available and same test for afternoon classes or make ups so basically designed to support cheating. …Most (all) of the successful, high stat kids at our school either learn at home on their own using online resources or a parent, take DE courses during the summer or do Russian math.

[Integrated math] truly is Frankenmath designed to inflate grades and deflate skills.

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We’re in a moderately competitive public school in southern California, and the math instruction has been very very frustrating. The integrated math system puts you on a super accelerated path or just the regular path. There's no in between, which would be perfect for our kids. Our oldest survived and is headed to HYP. We've learned to navigate the horrible curriculum and crossing fingers it works out for our younger DCs. But I am deeply disappointed that my oldest is turned off by math, even if he's pursuing a major that has nothing to do with math.

Bay Area poster here, same here. Both kids are strong at math, though only one is pursuing STEM. We also found IM really ridiculous. I also can see how kids graduate with no math skills. In DD’s IM3 class the majority of the grade was homework and quizzes. Quizzes were group quizzes. The teacher made a point of making sure a math smart kid was in each group. The other kids would just let the smart kid do all the problems. Homework was never checked, just stamped that you had it. Tests were made up of the exact same questions on the group quizzes, retakes available and same test for afternoon classes or make ups so basically designed to support cheating. …Most (all) of the successful, high stat kids at our school either learn at home on their own using online resources or a parent, take DE courses during the summer or do Russian math.

[Integrated math] truly is Frankenmath designed to inflate grades and deflate skills.

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Anonymous wrote:SWW has many students doubling up Geo & Algebra 2 in 9th grade, so I'd imagine that large cluster takes Pre-calc next, then their AP Calc junior year.

Really not recommended to take geo and algebra 2 simultaneously. Why not take geo in 8th grade?

Because DCPS middle schools don’t have geometry classes in 8th. The math offerrings are really poor and disappointing.

Anonymous wrote:MCPS collapses Alg 1, geometry, and alg 2 into two Integrated Math classes so they have a good solution for getting calculus by 10th or 11th grade, for high flyers.

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Anonymous wrote:SWW has many students doubling up Geo & Algebra 2 in 9th grade, so I'd imagine that large cluster takes Pre-calc next, then their AP Calc junior year.

Terrible to try to take 2 math classes the same year and double up. Better to track earlier and that is the issue in DCPS middle school is majority don’t even have a geometry class in 8th so kids are forced to do above for any acceleration

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Anonymous wrote:SWW has many students doubling up Geo & Algebra 2 in 9th grade, so I'd imagine that large cluster takes Pre-calc next, then their AP Calc junior year.

Really not recommended to take geo and algebra 2 simultaneously. Why not take geo in 8th grade?

Anonymous wrote:SWW has many students doubling up Geo & Algebra 2 in 9th grade, so I'd imagine that large cluster takes Pre-calc next, then their AP Calc junior year.

Anonymous wrote:SWW has many students doubling up Geo & Algebra 2 in 9th grade, so I'd imagine that large cluster takes Pre-calc next, then their AP Calc junior year.