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Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Opinions may differ but Trevor Day is definitely TT.

Curious why you think so? Not arguing. I just never heard of anyone describe it as TT. I’ve heard T2 and T3 from most.

I assume the poster was joking in response to someone who rudely dominates some of the threads here with their irrational hatred of Trevor - it is extreme and overboard and nasty (and much of it has fortunately been deleted).

Trevor is not TT. Good school with plenty of pros (and some cons) but even its biggest fan wouldn't argue it is TT.

I don't know how one would differentiate 2T and 3T so I will stay away from that. Within the non-TT there is definitely some hierarchy but it can get pretty gray and isn't worth opening that can of worms (though I guess that's what the internet is all about?). I don't think there is statistically significant cross admit info, particularly if you were to tease out geography, sports, single sex/co-ed, and a few other preference items that could lead someone to accept an otherwise "lower ranked" school over a theoretically higher ranked one.

How much "easier" would HS be at a 2T school versus a TT school?

what about G&T (say at Nest or Anderson) MS versus private school?

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Anonymous wrote:You can differentiate based on cross admits and where families send their kids when multiple options are on the table. No one chooses Browning or Trevor over Riverdale, few choose Riverdale over Trinity.

Browning and Trevor are 3T

I don’t consider Browning 3T. I almost sent my very bright son there and would definitely have picked it over Riverdale. They send a lot of their boys to excellent schools and it’s a small, nurturing environment. I liked it a lot.

Its college admissions are way worse than Riverdale. Unless you’re prioritizing single sex it doesn’t make sense.

I don’t know. Browning has a much smaller class. The college exmissions this year seem to be very good. 25 kids have posted so far and they are all very good schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Riverdale, ECFS, Nightingale, CSH, probably Browning and Marymount too.

ECFS can be debated. Quite a few families now turn it down in favor of schools that would’ve traditionally been viewed as 3T.

Yeah, it's got a famous name and a pretty campus and enough rich/connected families to give it decent college admissions, but the administration is a train wreck and the academics are iffy.

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Anonymous wrote:You can differentiate based on cross admits and where families send their kids when multiple options are on the table. No one chooses Browning or Trevor over Riverdale, few choose Riverdale over Trinity.

Browning and Trevor are 3T

I don’t consider Browning 3T. I almost sent my very bright son there and would definitely have picked it over Riverdale. They send a lot of their boys to excellent schools and it’s a small, nurturing environment. I liked it a lot.

Its college admissions are way worse than Riverdale. Unless you’re prioritizing single sex it doesn’t make sense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Riverdale, ECFS, Nightingale, CSH, probably Browning and Marymount too.

ECFS can be debated. Quite a few families now turn it down in favor of schools that would’ve traditionally been viewed as 3T.

Anonymous wrote:You can differentiate based on cross admits and where families send their kids when multiple options are on the table. No one chooses Browning or Trevor over Riverdale, few choose Riverdale over Trinity.

Browning and Trevor are 3T

I don’t consider Browning 3T. I almost sent my very bright son there and would definitely have picked it over Riverdale. They send a lot of their boys to excellent schools and it’s a small, nurturing environment. I liked it a lot.

You can differentiate based on cross admits and where families send their kids when multiple options are on the table. No one chooses Browning or Trevor over Riverdale, few choose Riverdale over Trinity.

Browning and Trevor are 3T

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Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Opinions may differ but Trevor Day is definitely TT.

Curious why you think so? Not arguing. I just never heard of anyone describe it as TT. I’ve heard T2 and T3 from most.

Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Riverdale, ECFS, Nightingale, CSH, probably Browning and Marymount too.

The problem with these definitions is that nobody is obligated to adopt them - or even use them consistently themselves, since it's an anonymous forum - and so everybody can say their kid attends a TT or a 2T or whatever and tell themselves they're not lying.

Personally I think there's a colorable argument that any school with competitive admissions ought to be in "TT" and that the differences within that group are much smaller than people here would like to admit. The actual differences between HM and Fieldston or between Brearley and Nightingale are minuscule - they're hiring the same teachers and teaching the same material and sending kids to the same colleges - and basically of no interest to anybody who isn't an admissions consultant or a weird status-obsessed Upper East Sider.

The only non-controversial ones are Nightingale and Sacred Heart. Also Riverdale if you do not consider it TT.

Others can be debated.

I would say there are TT and the rest. Because to differentiate between 2T and 3T is not easy. There definitely is a pecking order among the non-TT schools but it really is not clear.

Anonymous wrote:On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.

Opinions may differ but Trevor Day is definitely TT.

On this board (and IRL) there seems to be little consensus on what is considered a 2T school. TT seems pretty clear, as does 3T, but the minute you mention any school that might be considered 2T, there are people "well actually"ing to say that they are not really 2T, they are actually 3T, or actually now considered TT.