Oh for Pete's ...

I just checked out the site. It's basically all BVBIA, which does indeed have at least one branch in ECNL.

It's like going to the website for McDonald's and complaining that there's a photo from a franchise in Iowa.

Yeesh!

My kid played under coach Suli for years and I give him all the credit for development of a college level player.

I agree the club communication and organization could be a lot better, but there are some great coaches there.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw an ecnl badge in a picture. Why?

that team in the picture is in Texas. My cousin's on plays for that team. They have ECNL charter.

PAC is using some random team photo for their website?

Anonymous wrote:I saw an ecnl badge in a picture. Why?

that team in the picture is in Texas. My cousin's on plays for that team. They have ECNL charter.

Featured prominently on their website under "pathways" is a kid in a PAC jersey with an ECNL badge (probably photoshopped).

No info on "pathways" is given lol.

Anonymous wrote:I saw an ecnl badge in a picture. Why?

Context?

They don’t have the infrastructure or enough kids to play ECNL. They do what they do and do it well.

I saw an ecnl badge in a picture. Why?

Anonymous wrote:PAC is a mess today, and BVBIA isn’t likely to make it any better. A current manager said that BVB will just be in the background and not taking an active role, which is very disappointing. It seemed like an opportunity to bring structure and organization to the PAC. The club seems to exist for the money and not the players. We’ve known of many families that have had issues over the years, and there’s nowhere to take them because there’s no true or caring leader at the top of the organization (without naming names) that cares about broad personal and player development. This isn’t a fully legit club like others in the area. Save your money and go to a real club.

That is 100% NOT my experience.

I found this to be a club that cared about the development of every player on the field, no matter how good or bad they were when they came out to play.

Organizationally challenged? Sure. Lacking elite teams in ECNL or the GA or MLS Next? True -- they tend to develop players who then move on.

But caring about "broad personal and player development"? Absolutely.

Not sure if this is still the case (because I'm not sure about their field status), but when we were there, the U9s through U12s trained at the same time, followed by the older groups. The coaches all knew the kids not just on their specific teams but on the other teams as well. They all took an interest in all the players.

Many years later, I still occasionally bump into the coaches, and they remember my DS.

There may be some reasons not to like PAC, but "they don't care" is about like saying the problem with Rage Against the Machine is that they aren't political enough.

Harsh words...

PAC is a mess today, and BVBIA isn’t likely to make it any better. A current manager said that BVB will just be in the background and not taking an active role, which is very disappointing. It seemed like an opportunity to bring structure and organization to the PAC. The club seems to exist for the money and not the players. We’ve known of many families that have had issues over the years, and there’s nowhere to take them because there’s no true or caring leader at the top of the organization (without naming names) that cares about broad personal and player development. This isn’t a fully legit club like others in the area. Save your money and go to a real club.

Anonymous wrote:Any PAC parents impacted? Or have thoughts? Was thinking of having my 2014 DS tryout but don't have any information beyond the very vague new website.

DS plays for PAC. Historically, it’s a small, family-operated club with a strong development focus. Coaching is generally very good (although better at some age levels than others). The 2014s are one of their strongest age groups and will play N1 in the fall. The team is traveling to England this summer, which should be very cool. Overall, it’s a really nice and close-knit group of kids.

Of course, the jury is still out on the BVB transition, but families mostly see it as a positive. With PAC, communication/organization have always been the weakest points. The change will, hopefully, help to address those areas with more resources, stronger infrastructure, a more defined curriculum, etc., etc.

I missed this when I started a new thread asking if the club had folded (I searched for Premier AC rather than PAC -- my fault).

It'll give them some infrastructure if nothing else. They have a lot of good coaches and not a lot of administrative acumen. I'd be cautiously optimistic.

It can't just be Sully's operation forever. He's great, but how long can he keep running things on his own? This surely helps.

Any PAC parents impacted? Or have thoughts? Was thinking of having my 2014 DS tryout but don't have any information beyond the very vague new website.

The BVB thing seems strange. Dribbling United from Silver Spring made a big deal of joining BVB last year, and then went back to just Dribbling United for this year.

What?

https://www.bvbia-pacvirginia.com/