Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:29
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
No, you have the baby, but then give it up for adoption after the leave is over.
I adopted an infant for the parental leave, but then returned it when the leave was over. The baby wasn't a good fit for our family anyway, so I was glad to get rid of it. I got a dog instead.
You guys crack me up
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:27
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
Not the PP who said it, but I worked at a law firm where an associate took paternity leave after his wife had a baby. He used that time to travel around for athletic events, never returned from paternity leave, and wasn't required to pay it back. I don't know if it's fraudulent, but he wasn't using the time to stay home and bond with his baby, which seems like the intent.
Makes no difference to the employer whether he’s spending time with the baby or traveling around. He had a qualifying life event and used the leave. Employer spends the same amount either way.
Some rogue example like this is a horrific reason contrary to public policy to end or limit paternity leave.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:26
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
someone was just on here talking about scheduling some vacations while out on family leave, while others pick up and cover their absence while recovering and bonding, so yes.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:26
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
Not the PP who said it, but I worked at a law firm where an associate took paternity leave after his wife had a baby. He used that time to travel around for athletic events, never returned from paternity leave, and wasn't required to pay it back. I don't know if it's fraudulent, but he wasn't using the time to stay home and bond with his baby, which seems like the intent.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:25
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
No, you have the baby, but then give it up for adoption after the leave is over.
I adopted an infant for the parental leave, but then returned it when the leave was over. The baby wasn't a good fit for our family anyway, so I was glad to get rid of it. I got a dog instead.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:25
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
lol I had to provide a birth certificate within 30 days.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:24
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
If the goal is to reduce labor force participation for women, then this is the best direction to go.
That’s only if ONLY women get parental leave. If both genders get equal leave, there is no gendered penalty for having a baby.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:24
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
No, you have the baby, but then give it up for adoption after the leave is over.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:23
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
If the goal is to reduce labor force participation for women, then this is the best direction to go.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:22
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
As a woman, I think paternity leave is fantastic. It should be equal in length to maternity leave, and men should be strongly encouraged or even required to take the full amount.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:22
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:19
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:12
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Stfu grandpa
Anonymous
05/11/2026 11:11
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.
When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.
Anonymous
05/11/2026 10:59
Subject: Deloitte and Zoom Cut Paid Family Leave
Life keeps getting harder for American working parents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/upshot/family-leave-cuts-deloitte-zoom.htmlWhy Two Big Companies Just Cut Paid Family Leave
Deloitte and Zoom are among the employers reducing support for working parents, signaling a retreat from a “golden age of benefits.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/upshot/family-leave-cuts-deloitte-zoom.htmlWhy Two Big Companies Just Cut Paid Family Leave
Deloitte and Zoom are among the employers reducing support for working parents, signaling a retreat from a “golden age of benefits.”
Not long ago, employers were competing over who could be most generous in providing family-friendly benefits — things like paid parental leave, subsidized fertility treatments and even pet insurance. Paid leave was expanded to people who hadn’t gotten it before, like fathers and hourly workers.
Now, some companies are reconsidering.
The share of U.S. employers offering paid family leave dropped two percentage points in 2025, to 31 percent, according to an annual survey by the Society for Human Resource Management.
At least two large companies, Deloitte and Zoom, recently said they were cutting back the level of family leave they offered. At Deloitte, the cuts apply to people in certain administrative roles, and it is also reducing vacation time and eliminating financial support for adoption, surrogacy and I.V.F. for those employees.
The move could particularly affect female workers, analysts said, because paid family leave has been shown to help them stay employed.