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Anonymous wrote:The five points email was stupid, but hardly “abuse.” Get a grip.

The richest man in the world was tweeting derisively about federal employees and making it clear they didn't think he did anything. That was how we found out about this new job requirement. Of course it was abusive. That was the point.

Many people gave wise answers. No one took the 5 bullets seriously, starting with our leadership.

Congratulations? It's still abusive. Elon Musk hated federal employees, made that hatred clear, and was allowed to make this rule.

As a non-fed, it was abusive, insane and pretty nauseating. That said, we need it all fixed from the inside-out. I can see the arguments for a slimmed down government but we need government to run certain things, period. People are insane if they think they can/should dismantle agencies that we NEED.

My office is part time and hiring. We are getting a lot of overqualified people who were RIF'd from much higher, full time positions. So yes, people are desperate for anything.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The five points email was stupid, but hardly “abuse.” Get a grip.

The richest man in the world was tweeting derisively about federal employees and making it clear they didn't think he did anything. That was how we found out about this new job requirement. Of course it was abusive. That was the point.

Many people gave wise answers. No one took the 5 bullets seriously, starting with our leadership.

Congratulations? It's still abusive. Elon Musk hated federal employees, made that hatred clear, and was allowed to make this rule.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The five points email was stupid, but hardly “abuse.” Get a grip.

The richest man in the world was tweeting derisively about federal employees and making it clear they didn't think he did anything. That was how we found out about this new job requirement. Of course it was abusive. That was the point.

Many people gave wise answers. No one took the 5 bullets seriously, starting with our leadership.

It makes sense if they put years into the retirement system and want to retire out of gov with insurance.

I would love for people to go into fed service. The smarter the better. Get in there and document what doge did. What was stolen. Document and report so that we know how to fix it. Do it before it's too late. Make copies of everything. Shadow servers, etc.

Anonymous wrote:The five points email was stupid, but hardly “abuse.” Get a grip.

The richest man in the world was tweeting derisively about federal employees and making it clear they didn't think he did anything. That was how we found out about this new job requirement. Of course it was abusive. That was the point.

The five points email was stupid, but hardly “abuse.” Get a grip.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of people dont know what happened. I get it as a fed this stuff is in our face but the general public generally isnt aware of the scale of what happened. I suspect there is also a group of people that think they will just tough it out for a few years and things will get better.

My DH is a fed. He’s not going anywhere.

PP here and I was referring more to the people applying for these jobs rather than current feds. Different analysis for current feds that may be locked into the pension or unique govt skillsets.

1) Yes, people are desperate. And this is reasonable, given what happened.
2) They're not exactly getting away with it. There are areas that are struggling greatly to hire.

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of people dont know what happened. I get it as a fed this stuff is in our face but the general public generally isnt aware of the scale of what happened. I suspect there is also a group of people that think they will just tough it out for a few years and things will get better.

My DH is a fed. He’s not going anywhere.

A career is a lot longer than a year. It’s a lot longer than four years. I’m not applying to be a fed but I certainly don’t think poorly of people who are taking advantage of job opportunities.

I think a lot of people dont know what happened. I get it as a fed this stuff is in our face but the general public generally isnt aware of the scale of what happened. I suspect there is also a group of people that think they will just tough it out for a few years and things will get better.

Shame on you. Many jobs in the federal government are highly specific to their agencies and departments and do not exist anywhere else. The people who were laid off probably had difficulty finding work that matches their specific skillset. Of course they're going to try to return. Now DOGE has disappeared, job security is a little more guaranteed. And most agencies are apolitical.

A lot of friends who were laid off are re-applying.

Amazing how many agencies are hiring lately and apparently have gotten applicants. How is that possible after the year of abuse — RIFs, doge, cancellation of TW and CBAs, low or zero pay raises, 5 bullets, criticism and insults, etc etc.

If any private company did something like that, they’d never get away with it — nobody would apply to work there for a long time. So how does the federal government get away with it?