Title should be: Ivy Rejects’ Best Alternatives

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the update 2026 list:

Private "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

Carnegie Mellon
Case Western
Emory
Georgetown
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Rice
Tufts
Vanderbilt
WashU St. Louis

Public "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

US Air Force Academy
U Florida
Georgia Tech
Michigan
UNC Chapel Hill
Purdue
UT Austin
UVA
William & Mary
U Wisconsin Madison

Air Force Academy & Case Western are NEW to the list. Which schools came off?

West Point and Johns Hopkins

Hopkins didn't really come off the list...they moved it into the "Ivy +" group.

Anonymous wrote:This is the update 2026 list:

Private "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

Carnegie Mellon
Case Western
Emory
Georgetown
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Rice
Tufts
Vanderbilt
WashU St. Louis

Public "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

US Air Force Academy
U Florida
Georgia Tech
Michigan
UNC Chapel Hill
Purdue
UT Austin
UVA
William & Mary
U Wisconsin Madison

Air Force Academy & Case Western are NEW to the list. Which schools came off?

West Point and Johns Hopkins

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the article is 90% about how these schools are incorporating AI into really everything throughout the curriculum.

Wasn't expecting that to be the thrust of it.

No it didn't. It just said the reality of AI is changing hiring. The quote I took away was “The most promising talents today are beginning to emerge from institutions that prioritize intellectual rigor over inherited prestige.” And - "That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so."

Talent matters. And companies recognize that all the hooked this and that at Harvard and Princeton generally aren't great hires in 2026. Students at colleges that prioritize real talent tend to be better. I mean this is a pretty obvious observation for anyone that has been paying attention for the past five years.

Agreed and as someone who hires for a bank in NYC, we know we can get the same quality of graduate from these so-called "New Ivy" private and/or public universities. We have meetings where colleagues share how they've been more impressed by student from schools off this list. This is a very good list.

I don't disagree with you that a bunch of the New Ivy schools are targets for NYC bank recruiting (that's really not anything new)...but you can't honestly claim that there aren't a ton of say Wharton kids getting hired as we speak for Wall Street jobs in far greater numbers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the article is 90% about how these schools are incorporating AI into really everything throughout the curriculum.

Wasn't expecting that to be the thrust of it.

No it didn't. It just said the reality of AI is changing hiring. The quote I took away was “The most promising talents today are beginning to emerge from institutions that prioritize intellectual rigor over inherited prestige.” And - "That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so."

Talent matters. And companies recognize that all the hooked this and that at Harvard and Princeton generally aren't great hires in 2026. Students at colleges that prioritize real talent tend to be better. I mean this is a pretty obvious observation for anyone that has been paying attention for the past five years.

Agreed and as someone who hires for a bank in NYC, we know we can get the same quality of graduate from these so-called "New Ivy" private and/or public universities. We have meetings where colleagues share how they've been more impressed by student from schools off this list. This is a very good list.

Never heard of this. If anything this is a recruiting concern. You clearly don’t work anywhere of importance, since your organization sounds tiny if these conversations are being had.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the article is 90% about how these schools are incorporating AI into really everything throughout the curriculum.

Wasn't expecting that to be the thrust of it.

No it didn't. It just said the reality of AI is changing hiring. The quote I took away was “The most promising talents today are beginning to emerge from institutions that prioritize intellectual rigor over inherited prestige.” And - "That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so."

Talent matters. And companies recognize that all the hooked this and that at Harvard and Princeton generally aren't great hires in 2026. Students at colleges that prioritize real talent tend to be better. I mean this is a pretty obvious observation for anyone that has been paying attention for the past five years.

Agreed and as someone who hires for a bank in NYC, we know we can get the same quality of graduate from these so-called "New Ivy" private and/or public universities. We have meetings where colleagues share how they've been more impressed by student from schools off this list. This is a very good list.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the article is 90% about how these schools are incorporating AI into really everything throughout the curriculum.

Wasn't expecting that to be the thrust of it.

No it didn't. It just said the reality of AI is changing hiring. The quote I took away was “The most promising talents today are beginning to emerge from institutions that prioritize intellectual rigor over inherited prestige.” And - "That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so."

Talent matters. And companies recognize that all the hooked this and that at Harvard and Princeton generally aren't great hires in 2026. Students at colleges that prioritize real talent tend to be better. I mean this is a pretty obvious observation for anyone that has been paying attention for the past five years.

I mean...yes it literally did. The first three paragraphs are about how AI is changing the jobs landscape. The next 4 paragraphs are about how the schools on the list are adapting to this new environment by incorporating AI. Then there is the 1 paragraph that you pulled from above. Then there like 8 more paragraphs again about how the schools are using AI.

So... you are correct because it's more like 95% of the article is how these schools are using AI.

BTW...that paragraph is really just utter bullshit and I have a kid at an actual Ivy and a "New Ivy" that's on the list. Both are great for these kids but my Ivy kid has so many opportunities available to them. The issue is the people responding to the Forbes survey are coming from your traditional corporate environments (think executives at Coca Cola or P&G), and it's true the Ivy kids aren't particularly interested in these jobs much anymore.

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the article is 90% about how these schools are incorporating AI into really everything throughout the curriculum.

Wasn't expecting that to be the thrust of it.

No it didn't. It just said the reality of AI is changing hiring. The quote I took away was “The most promising talents today are beginning to emerge from institutions that prioritize intellectual rigor over inherited prestige.” And - "That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so."

Talent matters. And companies recognize that all the hooked this and that at Harvard and Princeton generally aren't great hires in 2026. Students at colleges that prioritize real talent tend to be better. I mean this is a pretty obvious observation for anyone that has been paying attention for the past five years.

Anonymous wrote:This is the update 2026 list:

Private "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

Carnegie Mellon
Case Western
Emory
Georgetown
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Rice
Tufts
Vanderbilt
WashU St. Louis

Public "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

US Air Force Academy
U Florida
Georgia Tech
Michigan
UNC Chapel Hill
Purdue
UT Austin
UVA
William & Mary
U Wisconsin Madison

Air Force Academy & Case Western are NEW to the list. Which schools came off?

Great schools. The article was interesting as it cited employer interest as well as these schools being innovative with AI adoption on top of high quality and employability.

This is the update 2026 list:

Private "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

Carnegie Mellon
Case Western
Emory
Georgetown
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Rice
Tufts
Vanderbilt
WashU St. Louis

Public "Top Ten" new ivies (alphabetical order, not ranked):

US Air Force Academy
U Florida
Georgia Tech
Michigan
UNC Chapel Hill
Purdue
UT Austin
UVA
William & Mary
U Wisconsin Madison

Air Force Academy & Case Western are NEW to the list. Which schools came off?

These are GREAT schools.

As long as there are schools with sub 5% admit rates, it will never change that there are a small number of schools where the cohorts are just so relentlessly competitive and capable that the education includes how to contend with and thrive in that environment, and though these schools provide a great educational environment, they do not have that part of the "ivy equation."

They're all very very good schools.

It's interesting that the article is 90% about how these schools are incorporating AI into really everything throughout the curriculum.

Wasn't expecting that to be the thrust of it.

Anonymous wrote:This is the same list from last year. There is a "top ten" private and public list for "New Ivies". I suspect they'll update it again this year.

Here is the convo thread about the private "new Ivies":

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/1320503.page#31923509

This is the updated version for this year. Just came out yesterday.

This is the same list from last year. There is a "top ten" private and public list for "New Ivies". I suspect they'll update it again this year.

Here is the convo thread about the private "new Ivies":

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/1320503.page#31923509

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/04/08/the-new-ivies-20-great-employer-friendly-colleges-embracing-ai/?utm_campaign=ForbesMainFB&utm_source=ForbesMainFacebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawREvytleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEzem9Ick9veXQ1MmltT1FSc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHtixvBpf1PvMBhl-0qlYDKxt3gjs_5wwE9x7TkABt7ErrNXE5Rbg3DYv0_Hq_aem_l2LIxXCmjZNw-2QEfY7-EA

Article about the "New Ivy" list by Forbes.com

Looks like UVA and William and Mary are on the list.