Anonymous wrote:Hello,
Also have similar question my kid got rejected in 2nd grade, 3rd grade and now I am thinking to take WISC or not for appeal.

Her NNAT was 96 percentile and her CoGat Test were high (Verbal SAS: 144, Quantitative SAS: 118, Nonverbal SAS: 123, Composite SAS: 132) and only Hope scales was low and iReady and MAP (Math) tests are above 70% only.

What do you think does worth spending money on testing her on WISC? is there chance to get into AAP?

You might do a full psycho-educational evaluation, which would include WISC but other things as well (e.g., screening for ADHD, specific learning disabilities in math or reading). This could be the profile of a "twice-exceptional" student. I have a 2e student whose abilities testing (CoGat, WISC) is very high, but their achievement testing is lower.

Same question... I was planning on submitting the whole report.

Do you submit the whole report or just the scores?

What kind of WISC-V scores work for the Appeal process? Which subscores are given more preference?

Anonymous wrote:Hello,
Also have similar question my kid got rejected in 2nd grade, 3rd grade and now I am thinking to take WISC or not for appeal.

Her NNAT was 96 percentile and her CoGat Test were high (Verbal SAS: 144, Quantitative SAS: 118, Nonverbal SAS: 123, Composite SAS: 132) and only Hope scales was low and iReady and MAP (Math) tests are above 70% only.

What do you think does worth spending money on testing her on WISC? is there chance to get into AAP?

you could try but i dont know that it would work. the NNAT and cogat don’t match HOPE or iready and map. the committee probably thinks your child was prepped for the testing. 70% for iready and map dont show a need for accelerated teaching. and honestly i dont think your child would be able to keep up (specifically math)

Check the website, there will be a date to hear back on appeals. They are released at one time.

Does anyone know how long does it normally take for the AAP Appeals Committee to get back on their decision?

Just curious - Did anyone, who has submitted their appeal this year, hear back yet?

I see some posts related to the WISC-V scores. Is any particular subscore given higher priority than another one?

Hello,
Also have similar question my kid got rejected in 2nd grade, 3rd grade and now I am thinking to take WISC or not for appeal.

Her NNAT was 96 percentile and her CoGat Test were high (Verbal SAS: 144, Quantitative SAS: 118, Nonverbal SAS: 123, Composite SAS: 132) and only Hope scales was low and iReady and MAP (Math) tests are above 70% only.

What do you think does worth spending money on testing her on WISC? is there chance to get into AAP?

Mixed feelings. My kiddo took it for an appeal last year as a 2nd grader and still found ineligible (136 score) for the appeal. She was just found eligible as a 3rd grader in a local full time classroom as a part time aap kid, and amazing teachers in language immersion. Probably has more to do with the other applicants since the committee is reading all files from your school.

Yes, we had success on appeal with a WISC at a highly competitive, high SES school. Ignore the crazy high scores people post on here, and be especially leery of those recounting tales of other children *who are not their own* and were admitted. Parents lie to other parents all the time. 99 percentile is 135+, but I’d personally submit anything 130+ (98-99 percentile). Back in the olden days (pre covid/pre-local norms) gold standard used to be 132 on COGAT and 130 on WISC.

But for AAP appeal it’s not just about scores. If you truly believe your child needs AAP to thrive, you explain why that’s the case in the parent letter, provide authentic (child-created) work samples - especially those that counter any lower scoring areas — and provide any additional testing since the last packet submission to help bolster your case.

With regards to the work samples, if you look at the samples in the packet provided by school, the teacher tells you what the sample is supposed to be showing the committee. You can include a line or two on the sample showing the same and try to connect it to themes used in the HOPE rating scale. “This sample shows Charlie to be a creative and productive thinker with his … “

I hope some of this helps - good luck w the appeal!

Also know few families with kids being too shy or too troublesome to the teachers, they took the WISC and the ones scored above 145 all got in.

Yes, my older boy had great scores and bad teacher recommendation since he was making troubles in class. He took the WISC at GMU scored 154 and got in on appeal.

To clarify, my child is in the second grade.

It is a mixed bag, some people get it and get in, others don't. There is no pattern to the scores.

The question is why is it important to you to get your child into AAP? Is it worth $500, or whatever costs, and hours of testing for your child to be placed into AAP.

The answer to this question is personal. We deferred AAP to stay in Language Immersion. Our child joined AAP in 7th grade and had no issues in any of his classes. He tested into Algebra 1 H. AAP is not that advanced, plenty of kids who defer or chose to stay in LLIV join AAP in MS and have zero issues with the class work. The reality is, the AAP curriculum does not accelerate the kids in a significant way. The only exception is math and you can get that through Advanced Math.

The possible exception to this is if your kid is at a Title 1 school or a near Title 1 school when AAP is your best opportunity for your child to be in a class with peers that are on grade level or slightly advanced and they will not that in the regular classroom.

Has anyone had success with the using WISC-V scores for AAP appeal? Any information would be much appreciated.