Anonymous wrote:McLean only has AD. They don’t have HG.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see both of these have the second tier of MLS Next. How do these two clubs compare in terms of coaching, roster sizes, and player development?
Similar but will depend on the particular age group / coach. Overall, probably 60-40 in favor of Loudoun, but that would not necessarily make a longer training commute worth it.
Anonymous wrote:Winter programming?
Similar but in both cases, families are largely left to their own devices at the MLSN2 / ECNL-RL level, so it depends on the particular teams. Some teams do a lot in the winter, others do not.
Anonymous wrote:Are players leaving (or trying to switch to) one or the other in greater numbers? I understand Loudoun feeds into NVA, which I could see as being an advantage. But do they really even look at the kids on the second team, or just recruit from outside anyway? If people had to guess, will it be easier to make the academy team at one or the other for next year?
Being on the Loudoun U12 top team is a huge advantage for making NVA U13. After that, I'm not sure it matters what team you are on, if you want to move from an MLSN2 or ECNL-RL team (or FVU ECNL) to NVA. NVA will drop a few players, or players will move, and they will bring in new players as needed. There is both a luck and skill component to opportunities from the outside.
This tryout season is weird, because of the age cutoff change. It will be easier for Aug-Dec birthdays to make age-appropriate MLSN2, ECNL and ECNL-RL teams.
Anonymous wrote:I see both of these have the second tier of MLS Next. How do these two clubs compare in terms of coaching, roster sizes, and player development?
Anonymous wrote:Winter programming?
Anonymous wrote:Are players leaving (or trying to switch to) one or the other in greater numbers? I understand Loudoun feeds into NVA, which I could see as being an advantage. But do they really even look at the kids on the second team, or just recruit from outside anyway? If people had to guess, will it be easier to make the academy team at one or the other for next year?
Anonymous wrote:If I were in your shoes, I would attend a game or two for each team and also see if you have a connection with a player or parent on either team to get some perspective. Be on a competitive team with close friends, at the right level for the player, and keep it relatively convenient for the family.
Anonymous wrote:I would pick based on what is a better group of boys in your son’s age group.
At my son’s age, the Loudoun boys (now NVA) were way more down to earth and nice than the McLean boys. I’m sure it varies across age groups but getting in a nice culture is going to be impactful for your experience.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see both of these have the second tier of MLS Next. How do these two clubs compare in terms of coaching, roster sizes, and player development? Winter programming? Are players leaving (or trying to switch to) one or the other in greater numbers? I understand Loudoun feeds into NVA, which I could see as being an advantage. But do they really even look at the kids on the second team, or just recruit from outside anyway? If people had to guess, will it be easier to make the academy team at one or the other for next year?
They do both but let’s be honest. Your kids chances of jumping from a club second team to an MLS Next HG team will be difficult unless they have improved their skills and game impact significantly. Coaches on HG teams always looking for the right talent for team needs but you have to make the team and play well enough to stay on the team too. Shorter term goal might be to make an AD team and keep improving and moving up. Just my general experience observations but your situation might be different
I should have been more clear that AD is the goal at this point and not necessarily trying out at Loudoun thinking it will somehow open up a path to NVA. My son has played against those kids and he is not at their level right now. Just wondering which club would be better for the AD level.
I am especially wondering if the Loudoun AD teams have more of a “second team” feel where kids feel like they are always competing with each other to be invited to guest play or be considered to move up, and families getting caught up in that. We have been there done that and my son would prefer to be on the top team at a club if possible because in our experience there’s actually less drama.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see both of these have the second tier of MLS Next. How do these two clubs compare in terms of coaching, roster sizes, and player development? Winter programming? Are players leaving (or trying to switch to) one or the other in greater numbers? I understand Loudoun feeds into NVA, which I could see as being an advantage. But do they really even look at the kids on the second team, or just recruit from outside anyway? If people had to guess, will it be easier to make the academy team at one or the other for next year?
They do both but let’s be honest. Your kids chances of jumping from a club second team to an MLS Next HG team will be difficult unless they have improved their skills and game impact significantly. Coaches on HG teams always looking for the right talent for team needs but you have to make the team and play well enough to stay on the team too. Shorter term goal might be to make an AD team and keep improving and moving up. Just my general experience observations but your situation might be different
Anonymous wrote:I see both of these have the second tier of MLS Next. How do these two clubs compare in terms of coaching, roster sizes, and player development? Winter programming? Are players leaving (or trying to switch to) one or the other in greater numbers? I understand Loudoun feeds into NVA, which I could see as being an advantage. But do they really even look at the kids on the second team, or just recruit from outside anyway? If people had to guess, will it be easier to make the academy team at one or the other for next year?
they recruit from outside.Anonymous wrote:I see both of these have the second tier of MLS Next. How do these two clubs compare in terms of coaching, roster sizes, and player development? Winter programming? Are players leaving (or trying to switch to) one or the other in greater numbers? I understand Loudoun feeds into NVA, which I could see as being an advantage. But do they really even look at the kids on the second team, or just recruit from outside anyway? If people had to guess, will it be easier to make the academy team at one or the other for next year?