Stop yakking about how crime has changed on 25 years in Puerto Vallarta. The shelter order was for five states in Mexico. Google it

Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

My sister and her family just flew out of PV this morning- she said they were the last plane out.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Of course not, places do change all the time, but I hadn't heard that before, that's why I was asking if it had really changed that much, I'd had no idea it was no longer a normal UMC tourist spot. No need to get prickly.

My impression is that Puerto Vallarta is still pretty touristy and safe, although the area between Puerto Vallarta and Mexico City has some cartel-heavy areas. I'm really surprised that Puerto Vallarta is covered by a shelter-in-place order. There's a nice Westin, a Dreams, a Marriot, etc. It's not a sketchy area, so a shelter in place is a scary.

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Anonymous wrote:Because Mexico and US took out the most wanted cartel boss and there are retaliations in the street by the cartel.

If the US is involved, it’s extremely irrational and irresponsible to do this while people are traveling there.

Also, it’s one of the gazillion cartels in Mexico. There’s just another one waiting to take over.

The US *is* involved. In case you didn't realize, the current administration couldn't care less about people, whether they're US diplomats or tourists, or foreigners.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Of course not, places do change all the time, but I hadn't heard that before, that's why I was asking if it had really changed that much, I'd had no idea it was no longer a normal UMC tourist spot. No need to get prickly.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

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Anonymous wrote:Because Mexico and US took out the most wanted cartel boss and there are retaliations in the street by the cartel.

If the US is involved, it’s extremely irrational and irresponsible to do this while people are traveling there.

Also, it’s one of the gazillion cartels in Mexico. There’s just another one waiting to take over.

Yes bit there is a war ti get there

Anonymous wrote:Because Mexico and US took out the most wanted cartel boss and there are retaliations in the street by the cartel.

If the US is involved, it’s extremely irrational and irresponsible to do this while people are traveling there.

Also, it’s one of the gazillion cartels in Mexico. There’s just another one waiting to take over.

Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming this is related to the shit down of airspace over El Paso and the cartel war that is coming.

The brief shut down in El Paso was just incompetence and bad communication.

I’m curious if this level of warning is common in Mexico or elsewhere. I don’t ever remember seeing a shelter in place.

It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

I'm assuming this is related to the shit down of airspace over El Paso and the cartel war that is coming.

Because Mexico and US took out the most wanted cartel boss and there are retaliations in the street by the cartel.

Shelter in place recommendation issued by the state dept for certain areas of Mexico. Is this common? Anyone there right now?