The Mazdas seem to have a decent balance these days. Otherwise used cars from 15-20.

Anonymous wrote:my 2005 Toyota Corrola, which I refuse to give up mainly due to this reason.

I drive a 2004 saturn l300, I'll probably never own a newer car because of the over use of computers and LED headlights.

smart phones are much much safer than flip phones - cameras!!!

Correction: OP.

I am totally with you, OO. We have a 2010 Honda Odyssey and a 2015 CRV. We are keeping them as long as we can because they just make sense.

I too hate all the unnecessary tech in cars.

My 2025 Corolla has knobs for the air conditioner at least.

I am with you OP. Car companies don't know what consumers want

Anonymous wrote:Just drove a Mazda CX-50 as a rental. Tech was low key, very intuitive and unintrusive. Physical buttons for everything. Yes, had more of the flip-phone era feel.

By comparison, drove a rental VW Atlas this summer. What a piece of sh!!. Felt cheap. Everything's in the screen. Like a Temu smart phone.

I also drove a rental Atlas last summer and what drove me crazy was that everything was controlled by the screen. So, when we needed to fiddle with the AC, it turned off the GPS, which we really needed while driving in a city with which we were not familiar. Then we had to press a bunch of buttons to try to get back to the map.

I don’t mind a screen for the sound system and car play but everything else should be a knob or a dial.

Just drove a Mazda CX-50 as a rental. Tech was low key, very intuitive and unintrusive. Physical buttons for everything. Yes, had more of the flip-phone era feel.

By comparison, drove a rental VW Atlas this summer. What a piece of sh!!. Felt cheap. Everything's in the screen. Like a Temu smart phone.

My 2013 Subaru.

OP — if car sales drop more, do you think they’ll scale back or push forward with more tech.

Eventually we’ll move toward driverless vehicles (probably that are collectively “owned”) which may or may not help car companies.

my 2005 Toyota Corrola, which I refuse to give up mainly due to this reason.

I wanted to buy a new Honda CRV in 2023 without a screen on the dashboard, and they told me it would be an extra $10k to take it out. I don't think it's possible anymore. Luckily, I can blackout the screen and not use it

Do cars like this exist anymore? All the tech components have driven up purchase and maintenance costs. I’m not impressed with all the tech. I’m not anti-tech per se. I’m just tired of being forced to buy everything from appliances to cars with features ws don’t actually need.