Anonymous wrote:Michigan also had the weird ED deferrals that were admitted two weeks later. Presumably growing pains from the ED process. That said, no one can tell from the timing of IG posts from a handful of schools in one metro area about the efficacy of the ED cycle.

Yes, there were two of those at DC's high school.

One waited a few weeks to accept. They figured why not wait to hear back from an EA school that might have come with a ton of money.

The other hasn't accepted yet. After being deferred in December, they submitted a bunch of RD applications, including some T10 schools with very low admit rates that they would prefer to Michigan. Unlikely, of course, but no downside to waiting now that the Michigan offer isn't binding.

My DC’s private school usually has 5-7 Michigan admits in EA. Currently 1 EA admit. The ED applicants were all deferred, didn’t get in EA, and moved to RD. So for our school, ED was a waste. Maybe they will get in during RD, but highly doubtful at this point. They have had 3 chances to admit them already. So…

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone would like some in-state anecdata....

Our high school's best candidate ED'd. It was his top choice school. I guess he was ED deferred? Because his parent told me he got an huge merit scholarship at Indiana and a guaranteed med school admit offer from another school. These will all be turned down.

He's delighted and his parents can afford it. So it's a welcome result.

It's just a waste to have to do so many apps these days.

How is ED deferral a “welcome result “? Can you write better?

The student in question got a deferred result in December, but then was admitted in the early January batch is my understanding.

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone would like some in-state anecdata....

Our high school's best candidate ED'd. It was his top choice school. I guess he was ED deferred? Because his parent told me he got an huge merit scholarship at Indiana and a guaranteed med school admit offer from another school. These will all be turned down.

He's delighted and his parents can afford it. So it's a welcome result.

It's just a waste to have to do so many apps these days.

How is ED deferral a “welcome result “? Can you write better?

You are being unnecessarily rude.

I don't know the full backstory and timeline on this kid's multiple admissions and merit offers. He and his family are just happy to know before all his results came back. And happy to signal the top choice priority.

Michigan State gives much better merit at our school than Michigan. So it's not just a competition with private schools.

Only a few from our school district apply to Ivies or even out of state. One person went to Penn before the pandemic.

Anonymous wrote:If anyone would like some in-state anecdata....

Our high school's best candidate ED'd. It was his top choice school. I guess he was ED deferred? Because his parent told me he got an huge merit scholarship at Indiana and a guaranteed med school admit offer from another school. These will all be turned down.

He's delighted and his parents can afford it. So it's a welcome result.

It's just a waste to have to do so many apps these days.

That’s great. Definitely the best reason for state schools to have ED is so in-state kids like your kid’s classmate can clearly signal that the school is their actual first choice, when otherwise Michigan or UVA (or heck, UConn) would have to wonder whether the kid was shooting for an elite private.

Anonymous wrote:If anyone would like some in-state anecdata....

Our high school's best candidate ED'd. It was his top choice school. I guess he was ED deferred? Because his parent told me he got an huge merit scholarship at Indiana and a guaranteed med school admit offer from another school. These will all be turned down.

He's delighted and his parents can afford it. So it's a welcome result.

It's just a waste to have to do so many apps these days.

How is ED deferral a “welcome result “? Can you write better?

If anyone would like some in-state anecdata....

Our high school's best candidate ED'd. It was his top choice school. I guess he was ED deferred? Because his parent told me he got an huge merit scholarship at Indiana and a guaranteed med school admit offer from another school. These will all be turned down.

He's delighted and his parents can afford it. So it's a welcome result.

It's just a waste to have to do so many apps these days.

Anonymous wrote:Just based on our HS, I think this is true. My kid, who applied ED and was accepted in the Jan. 5 early EA wave, is the only kid who applied ED and was admitted (most EA) who has not committed.

In previous years, most kids admitted EA from our HS didn’t commit until after RD.

Yeah. Like it might not even be changing who applies or is admitted, but it’s definitely changing who is willing to commit in January or February. And that’s going to improve yield.

Just based on our HS, I think this is true. My kid, who applied ED and was accepted in the Jan. 5 early EA wave, is the only kid who applied ED and was admitted (most EA) who has not committed.

In previous years, most kids admitted EA from our HS didn’t commit until after RD.

Michigan also had the weird ED deferrals that were admitted two weeks later. Presumably growing pains from the ED process. That said, no one can tell from the timing of IG posts from a handful of schools in one metro area about the efficacy of the ED cycle.

Anonymous wrote:Instagram posts are anecdata.

True. I know someone who posted their acceptance and based on the timing it might have looked like an ED accpetance, but it was EA - they just immediately knew that was what they wanted because their ED didn't work out and they didn't want to wait for anything else.

Instagram posts are anecdata.

You can't really judge by commitment posts. My DC got into UM EA last year, so they knew in January. They didn't submit to their school IG account for about 2 months. Once that acceptance came in, it was game over for every other school.

how the heck do you know all of this? I think you need to step away from the college apps.

Looking at the commitments in my area, made after the EA round, it seems like Michigan got the results they were looking for from ED.

Last year, the high schools around me sent 25 students OOS to Michigan. Of these, 17 were girls; only eight were boys. The commitments came late in the cycle, especially for boys. Only four students had committed at this point in the cycle, and no others committed until after Ivy Day. All four of the early commits were girls (and of those four girls, one was a recruited athlete). None of the early commits were boys.

This year, from this same set of high schools, nine students have already committed to Michigan. None are recruited athletes. Five are boys.

All the caveats about small convenience samples apply, of course. But if the results from other areas look like the results from the high schools around me, adding ED has been a roaring success for Michigan.